Yes, I agree. Each one is a tragedy. My point was that he's quibbling over names and whatever each side is called is irrelevant in the context of the discussion. Matthew Small
-----Original Message----- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 4:16 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Science, for dummies I have never in my entire life heard anyone say that every woman should have an abortion. Each one is a tragedy, which perhaps averts another. And this mind you, is the point of view of a very pro-choice observer. I may not support somone pro-choice, but never support anyone who isn't. Dana On 9/20/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You've avoided the issue. > > "EVERYBODY is anti-abortion since nobody is pro-abortion." > That's a ridiculous statement in the context of our argument and lends no > weight to whatever your point is. > > "It's my firm belief that nobody understands much about the Bible." > So how would you know in fact if anybody does or does not? It's a written > book, in fact there's one in about every hotel room in the US, I'm sure > somebody has studied this thing. > > "BTW - isn't it 'The Revelation of John' rather than 'The Book of > Revelations'" - Ok, this again doesn't do anything for your argument. If > it > does, it supports the fact that I'm not a Bible Scholar, which I never > claimed to be. Furthermore, it's a common name for the book, whatever the > full name is, which makes me correct, supported by this Christian scholar > on > PBS: > > > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/explanation/brevela > tion.html > > > "3.) Those who choose to spend their time fighting the effect rather > than the cause of the problem." > It seems that your cause - unwanted pregnancy - is not the same as their > cause - unwanted abortion. It just so happens that your cause in this case > conflicts with their cause in the single instance of abortion. It doesn't > conflict with birth-control, does it? It seems like the perfect > compromise. > > > "Now let's take their legal issue. If abortion were illegal what would > the penalty be? Putting the mother in jail? For how long? 30 > years?" > > I have no idea, since I'm not a champion for either cause. I don't really > care. > However, if it were illegal, I imagine the doctor would be going to jail > as > well. If the mother were in jail, I imagine she couldn't get pregnant > again, > could she? > > "Those #3 people are either mis-guided, ignorant, cowardly or all 3 > since they avoid solving the true cause of the problem, unwanted > pregnancy." > > Again, you've confused your crusade with theirs, if I understand that > yours > is "unwanted pregancy". Also, wouldn't lack of abortion be a deterrant? > > Perhaps they are "mis-guided", but where do ignorant and/or cowardly come > into play? > > > > Matthew Small > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 3:43 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Science, for dummies > > > Matthew wrote: > > It's clear you don't understand much about the Bible. > > For believers, the Bible is the inspired Word of the Lord passed down > > Well, that's certainly true. It's my firm belief that nobody > understands much about the Bible. I find it ironic that anyone WOULD > claim to understand much about the Bible or to go further and say they > know it's the word of God. In fact doing so makes them sinners in the > eyes of the Bible in multiple ways. > > ((BTW - isn't it 'The Revelation of John' rather than 'The Book of > Revelations') > > > I'm unsure why you label anti-abortion people as cowards. Whether or not > > you believe their cause, they have taken a stand. > > EVERYBODY is anti-abortion since nobody is pro-abortion. There are 3 > basic camps of anti-abortionists: > > 1.) Those that do nothing for or against unwanted pregnancy. > > 2.) Those that seek to stop the sole cause of abortion, unwanted > pregnancy, through birth control, education, and education. For > Planned Parenthood. > > 3.) Those who choose to spend their time fighting the effect rather > than the cause of the problem. > > Those #3 people are either mis-guided, ignorant, cowardly or all 3 > since they avoid solving the true cause of the problem, unwanted > pregnancy. > > Now let's take their legal issue. If abortion were illegal what would > the penalty be? Putting the mother in jail? For how long? 30 > years? > > Clearly putting a teen mother in jail for even 10 years is to totally > avoid the real cause of the problem and is therefore foolish, > cowardly, or both. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:174446 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
