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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nick McClure 
  To: CF-Community 
  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:55 AM
  Subject: Re: Ouch


  So what you are saying is that because the US lost 1.6% that they 
weren't 
  really involved?

  Wow, that is an amazing statement.

  If you looked lower in the Encarta article you would have read the 
info 
  about casualties.

  At 04:37 AM 12/15/2001 +1100, you wrote:
  >Will,
  >
  >Interesting, if you take the earlier reference to people involved in 
the war
  >versus those killed you can get an idea of the total cost/involvment 
in the
  >war for those countries. here are some rough estimates... I've only 
included
  >USSR, US and Germany because I could only find reference to the total 
people
  >involved (not be be confused with killed) for these countries...
  >
  >USSR 30 million involved:
  >66 % were killed approx.
  >
  >Germany 17 million involved :
  >32% were killed approx.
  >
  >US 16 million involved :
  >1.6% approx.
  >
  >These figures give an good assessment of involvment in WW2.
  >Russia was definately the hardest hit by a long way. US almost 
doesn't
  >register if you look at the complete lists. It's like saying of every 
100
  >American's directly involved in the war only 1 or 2 out of these were
  >killed. Contrast that will the USSR and it's 60 out of every 100 
people.
  >Russia also involved twice as many people as the US based on these 
figures
  >so you could reduce the US involvement even further. In other words, 
if the
  >US had involved as many people as Russia (30 million) then less than 
0.5% of
  >those involved would have died (or 1 in 200 people).
  >
  >This really strikes me because just imagine what a PROFOUND cultural 
impact
  >that must have had on Russians (and the rest of Europe). When this 
post of
  >WW2 casualties started I was afraid it must be insensitive to discuss
  >countries death tolls so dispassionately. Having spent a little time 
on it
  >however, it becomes critically clear what a massive impact that must 
have
  >had. And what little involvement the US really had by comparison. We 
must
  >consider these immense figures if we are to personally discuss the 
events of
  >the twentieth century with any seriousness.  They were massive loses 
and for
  >those countries involved would have had earth shattering 
consequences.
  >
  >Benjamin
  >
  >
  >
  >----- Original Message -----
  >From: "Will Swain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 3:04 AM
  >Subject: RE: Ouch
  >
  >
  > > surely death tolls would be a more accurate way of assessing a 
countries
  > > involvement?
  > >
  > > will
  > >
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  > > Sent: 14 December 2001 15:50
  > > To: CF-Community
  > > Subject: Re: Ouch
  > >
  > >
  > > MS Encarta, what would your figures be?
  > >
  > > At 02:45 AM 12/15/2001 +1100, you wrote:
  > > >where the hell did you get those figures.. you are way off
  > > >
  > > >"... in reality".... give me a break
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >----- Original Message -----
  > > >From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > > >Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 1:32 AM
  > > >Subject: RE: Ouch
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > > Well, in reality, It was USSR with around 20 Million troops, 
then
  > > Germany
  > > > > with 17 Million, then the US with 16 Million, British Empire 
was next
  > > with
  > > > > a little over 8 million, then Japan,  and China with 6-7 
Million each.
  > > > >
  > > > > I am not only talking about the European side only. I am also 
talking
  > > >about
  > > > > the Pacific side as well.
  > >
  > >
  >
  
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