> RoMunn wrote: > I guess the Iraqis are just too stupid or thuggish to want democracy for > themselves
Democracy is not the product of enlightenment, it's a lifestyle, and it's one that some people may not like and/or understand. Further, democracy requires responsibility and participation. And not just in big national elections - it requires it all the way down to the local level. An elected dictator is still a dictator - his election did not prove a democratic state. > I said it before and I'll say it again, you (and many others) are just bound > and determined to call That's either a cop out or a lack of understanding. I'd be the first to put on the party hat if we could've walked out of Iraq 2 years ago. My issue is that Mr. Bush was a fool to get involved in nation-building (something he campaigned against), has consistently listened to the wrong people, and continues to. His tactics still have us on square one - remember this criticism: "we don't have enough troops" Well who was right? The critics. To call the handling of the occupation "bungled" is an insult to bunglers. In short, national elections don't mean shit unless there's a groundswell of local democracy happening. If there is, I haven't heard about it, and it certainly doesn't seem as if our efforts are concentrated on ground-up democracy, but rather top-down. I think that's a stupid policy, but if it gets all of our troops home tomorrow - great! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:185272 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54