This is a very good point.  You get a ton of extra stuff out of the box that
you don't get elsewhere.

Ben Forta a while back did a cost comparison between CF and what it would
cost to build an ASP (there was no .Net yet) server that could do everything
that CF could and it would have cost like 80,000 US.  Hell I couldn't find
it on google, I'd write him, he's uber-helpful.

Another to look at is BD.  You can go either Java, or .Net for integration,
and still use CFML for what it's good at, the front end of applications,
produced very quickly and professionally.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 5:09 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Why is coldfusion better.
> 
> Adam
> 
> As stated in other posts your question is fact and not fiction.
> 
> For example as the sys-con article says CF comes with out of 
> the box solutions, so let's look at gateways for example. How 
> long would you think it would take a .Net developer to write 
> the same API that coldfusion has built in, or lets look at 
> the reports side of the table how long would it take to 
> incorporate this into PHP, and the amount of extra code 
> needed is what it boils down to.
> 
> So if you were to develop an enterprise solution that uses 
> gateways, reporting flash remoting and created the classes 
> for the API's your time would out way the cost of buying CF 
> in the first place.
> 
> We currently use the custom tags and components to deliver a 
> framework that we can create a master/detail database 
> interaction with minimal work, but with great functionality 
> and power. To write this in .Net, Php for example it would 
> cost us our hourly rate which per week runs in the thousands, 
> yet we can create this in as little as a few hours. So if we 
> take that example of the .Net solution, Java soloution it 
> would take us a month or 2 which would run into the many 
> thousands, instead we cut the cost by nearly 90% and CF has 
> more than paid for itself in the RAD that we use to create 
> the application in.
> 
> The argument always boils down, how long will it take me to 
> write this in CF and at my rates what is that going to cost 
> me. Then do the same comparison with any other language and 
> you will soon see the benefits more clearly.
> 
> Everyone on this list is going to say the same thing. CF is 
> RAD in its approach, and its very hard to bet that in any 
> other language at the moment.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> Andrew Scott
> Analyst Programmer
> 
> CMS Transport Systems
> Level 2/33 Bank Street
> South Melbourne, Victoria, 3205
> 
> Phone: 03 9699 7988  -  Fax: 03 9699 7976
> 
> Quote:
> ....the myth of socialism is far stronger than the reality of 
> capitalism.
> That is because capitalism is not really an ism at all. It is 
> what people do if you leave them alone. - Arnold Beichmen, 
> Hoover Institute Fellow
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 25 January 2006 3:52 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Why is coldfusion better.
> 
> "Coldfusion is a faster developement platfrom, its a fact" 
> Point me to a quantifiable resource that shows me this is 
> true. If it is a fact it has to have been derived from some 
> sort of research data, it not then its a claim and not a fact.
> 
> 
> Adam
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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