Wayne, just be glad your fellow countrymen a generation ago didn't "grow 
out", otherwise, you'd probably be speaking German.




Wayne Putterill wrote:
> I'm not anti american, I'm anti anyone who makes this world a worse place to 
> be.
>
> I'm not bashing america, my own country had a large part in this
> disgusting affair.
>
> As for calling me antisemetic, anyone who knows me would laugh out
> loud at that - particularly my jewish friends.
>
> I would lay down my life for something I believed in, but I grew out
> of playing with guns when I started wearing long trousers.
>
> On 3/17/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> There were no weapons found, there is no was to ever prove they did or did
>> not exist at this point.
>>
>> BTW Why is that "spin"?  Are all of my statements true?
>>
>> How about you stop with America bashing bullshit?  And the anti-Semitic
>> bullshit that you lefties like to spout.  It makes me sick.  How about
>> instead of sitting around bitching you actually stand for something, with
>> not only your principles, but your life on the line?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tim Heald
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 703-300-3911
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:51 AM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: Saddam Pretended to have Weapons to prevent Attack
>>
>> how about you actually deal with the point being discussed instead of
>> spouting another load of spin.
>>
>> On 3/17/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>     
>>> How about the violations of the cease fire?
>>>
>>> How about the UN resolutions allowing us to use force to enforce the
>>> sanctions that were being violated?
>>>
>>> How about the attacks against American Aircraft?
>>>
>>> How about the fact that oil is actually of vital importance to the
>>> national security of the United States?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tim Heald
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> 703-300-3911
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 3:16 AM
>>> To: CF-Community
>>> Subject: Re: Saddam Pretended to have Weapons to prevent Attack
>>>
>>> That's what blows all the "this means we were right to go in"
>>> arguments apart. We had ways of finding out if he did have WMD and the
>>> UK and US governments didn't let the people involved finish their work.
>>>
>>> On 3/17/06, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Just a reminder the people on the ground, the UN inspectors who were
>>>> in Iraq, and the IAEA always said that there were no WMD's.
>>>>
>>>> On 3/16/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> When you have your own guys, plus other countries all agreeing
>>>>> that they have them, then the risk factor seems within the bounds.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you try it and you turn out wrong, then people second guess,
>>>>> which is good if it makes us better, but when the point is just to
>>>>> belittle then it doesn't help anybody.
>>>>>
>>>>> Were mistakes made? Clearly. However I don't think they could have
>>>>> done this any other way.
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:13 PM
>>>>>> To: CF-Community
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Saddam Pretended to have Weapons to prevent Attack
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Dino wrote:
>>>>>>> Israel only attacked Iraq when they were building a nuclear
>>>>>>> reactor
>>>>>>>               
>>>>> for
>>>>>           
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> express purpose of gaining nukes to attack Israel.
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> Combine that with what gMoney said and you have:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.) If we thought there was a threat, why didn't we just bomb
>>>>>> the shit out of it w/o having to go in?  Lame Answer: mobile labs.
>>>>>> Apparently REALLY mobile.  So mobile they don't exist.  Which
>>>>>> brings
>>>>>>             
>>> us to ...
>>>       
>>>>>> 2.) Why don't we know how reliable our intelligence is?  From
>>>>>> the beginning the whole everybody-thought-blah-blah-blah strikes
>>>>>> me as absolutely moronic.  It's called risk management - I know
>>>>>> they offer classes at HBS on the topic.  Bush must've skipped them.
>>>>>> Whenever you have intelligence you have a reliability factor on
>>>>>> it.  Either ours was low and we went in anyway or we haven't
>>>>>> learned shit about intelligence in the last 50 years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>           
>>>>         
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>
>>
>>     
>
> 

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