Yes, but that has nothing to do with an actual marriage as far as the 
state is concerned, which is what I'm talking about.  Legislation.  Not 
the church.  I personally feel that the church can have whatever 
policies that they want, it's an individual's choice to be a part of 
that religion.  What the big debate is about is whether states can 
"marry" gay couples or not, and I don't understand how the church can 
even have a say in the matter.

Nick McClure wrote:
> There are two things. State recognition and Religion recognition. In some
> states Notaries Public are able to marry people for state purposes.
> 
> Some religions require that to be recognized by the church it must be done
> by a church official.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 12:20 PM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: help. I need to know if I'm married or not.
>>
>> Not only that, what about those of us who didn't get married in a church
>> by a church official?
>>
>> Which brings the whole deal full circle, at least for me.  Marriage is
>> somewhat defined as a legal contract, or at least it seems, since all
>> these states have legislation regarding marriage, so what exactly does
>> the church have to do with it?  Why do they get a say in the matter?
>> I'm confused as to why it (Gay marriage) is an issue.  Using the
>> church's services to get married is only one way to go about it, and in
>> the end it's a simple legal contract that has little to do with religion.
>>
>> I think.
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 

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