Dude.

You're at the beach, and you're yapping away on cf-comm.  Get out into 
the world, you nerd!  Or, if you really can't get away from work, I'll 
send you some stuff to do, and *I'll* head across town to the beach 
myself.  :)

Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
> I used to like dells a lot, but lately, their quality does seem to be
> slipping.  Maybe it's because they're offering the low end versions
> that everybody seems to buy.  I don't know of anyone with a dell
> laptop that hasn't crashed yet.  My brother's latitude has lost 2
> drives, my sisters 3 month old XPS lost a hard drive already, Anthony,
> the guy who's family is currently living with ours, has lost 2 hard
> drives on his 1.5 year old latitude.  Also, his panel above the
> keyboard that shows the scroll lock and num lock overheated a chip and
> burned it up.  Meanwhile, of the 3 thinkpad's I've owned, none have
> lost a hard drive and the only problem I've had with any of them was
> the 'p' key would come off the riser every once in a while.
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/16/06, Jillian Koskie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I love Dell... I bought a new XPS laptop from them and it's gorgeous and
>> wonderful.  With the XPS comes US tech support (there is a dedicated XPS
>> line) and they are very very helpful.
>>
>> My last laptop was also an Dell (Inspiron 4150) and tech support caused me
>> actual physical pain.  I wish there was an 'I am not an idiot. I am computer
>> literate. I know more than you do.' option when you call them... but keeping
>> in mind they are supporting the smallest common denominator, I put up with
>> it. (I had a fun one... Harddrive was ticking... TICK TICK TICK TICK every
>> second or so... So I call to have it replaced... And we went through about
>> 25 diagnostics only to discover the drive is 'fine' by their standards...
>> Because no error is produced.  Finally I started speaking gruffly and in a
>> louder tone and said 'I am going to put the phone by the hard drive... Do
>> you hear THAT? Are you honestly telling me that sounds healthy?' They sent
>> out the new harddrive and I received it the next day. Haha)
>>
>> The bottom line is that it is very hard to find comparable machines
>> (spec-wise) with complete care warranties (critical for laptop users imo)
>> and on-site next day warranty (man I love not depoting my laptop).
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Galt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 9:15 AM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: RE: Stupid Dell
>>
>> Hey, I put a smiley on it.
>>
>> Sorry, I have no patience for BS, and it sounds like this guy is handing it
>> out.
>>
>> BTW, Deana, the vast majority of drivers are either the default ones that
>> ship with XP, or they would be installed AFTER the initial OS install.  The
>> only exceptions to this I can think of are if you have any funky raid
>> drivers or whatever, and that's one of the questions you would be asked
>> during the install.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:02 AM
>>> To: CF-Community
>>> Subject: Re: Stupid Dell
>>>
>>> T... you need to work on coming out of your shell a bit and saying
>>> what you think.
>>>
>>> All this holding stuff in can't be healthy :)
>>>
>>> On 6/16/06, John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Tell your tech support guy I said he's an idiot that should do his
>>>> job instead of making excuses :)
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:53 AM
>>>>> To: CF-Community
>>>>> Subject: Re: Stupid Dell
>>>>>
>>>>> My tech support guy says that yes, while the drivers are there,
>>>>> they're not the ones that work during install.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know - it doesn't necessarily make sense to me, either.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/16/06, John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>> Go to support.dell.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Type in the service tag on the machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Download your drivers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Honestly, I hate it when people talk smack on Dell.  I have like
>>>>>> 4
>>> of
>>>>> their
>>>>>> boxes and never have any problems with them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:31 AM
>>>>>>> To: CF-Community
>>>>>>> Subject: Stupid Dell
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, I got a new work computer. It's a Dell. The first thing I
>>> always
>>>>>>> do with a new computer, particularly a Dell, is reinstall a
>>> generic
>>>>>>> copy of windows and partition the drive. I try to do that. BSOD.
>>>>>>> Lovely. We pass it off to our internal tech support, as they
>>>>>>> don't
>>> pay
>>>>>>> me to do hardware stuff. As it turns out, Dell has now started
>>>>>>> shipping computers with no disks, and no way (apparently) to
>>> download
>>>>>>> drivers. So, while tech support has currently gotten it past
>>>>>>> the
>>> BSOD
>>>>>>> (it was a conflict with the video card and hyperthreading, or
>>>>>>> some such), it now doesn't see the hard drive, because it's a
>>>>>>> SATA hard drive and you need to preinstall the (nonexistant)
>> drivers.
>>>>>>> Oh, and 30g of the drive is taken up by a "back up install" of
>>>>>>> the orginal system config, because Dell's new support model is
>>>>>>> "roll
>>> back
>>>>>>> to fresh install" if there are issues. Lovely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just want a computer - I don't want your 8 million Dell
>>>>>>> specific reminders, popups, and gobbleydegooks. ARG!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rant over.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 

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