Dell doesn't make the hard drives. They just buy crappy brands. Fujitsu are
the ones I keep pulling out of dells. When dell sends me a new one I request
another brand and I get seagate and have no problems. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:35 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Stupid Dell

I used to like dells a lot, but lately, their quality does seem to be
slipping.  Maybe it's because they're offering the low end versions that
everybody seems to buy.  I don't know of anyone with a dell laptop that
hasn't crashed yet.  My brother's latitude has lost 2 drives, my sisters 3
month old XPS lost a hard drive already, Anthony, the guy who's family is
currently living with ours, has lost 2 hard drives on his 1.5 year old
latitude.  Also, his panel above the keyboard that shows the scroll lock and
num lock overheated a chip and burned it up.  Meanwhile, of the 3 thinkpad's
I've owned, none have lost a hard drive and the only problem I've had with
any of them was the 'p' key would come off the riser every once in a while.



On 6/16/06, Jillian Koskie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I love Dell... I bought a new XPS laptop from them and it's gorgeous 
> and wonderful.  With the XPS comes US tech support (there is a 
> dedicated XPS
> line) and they are very very helpful.
>
> My last laptop was also an Dell (Inspiron 4150) and tech support 
> caused me actual physical pain.  I wish there was an 'I am not an 
> idiot. I am computer literate. I know more than you do.' option when 
> you call them... but keeping in mind they are supporting the smallest 
> common denominator, I put up with it. (I had a fun one... Harddrive 
> was ticking... TICK TICK TICK TICK every second or so... So I call to 
> have it replaced... And we went through about
> 25 diagnostics only to discover the drive is 'fine' by their standards...
> Because no error is produced.  Finally I started speaking gruffly and 
> in a louder tone and said 'I am going to put the phone by the hard 
> drive... Do you hear THAT? Are you honestly telling me that sounds 
> healthy?' They sent out the new harddrive and I received it the next 
> day. Haha)
>
> The bottom line is that it is very hard to find comparable machines
> (spec-wise) with complete care warranties (critical for laptop users 
> imo) and on-site next day warranty (man I love not depoting my laptop).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Galt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 9:15 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Stupid Dell
>
> Hey, I put a smiley on it.
>
> Sorry, I have no patience for BS, and it sounds like this guy is 
> handing it out.
>
> BTW, Deana, the vast majority of drivers are either the default ones 
> that ship with XP, or they would be installed AFTER the initial OS 
> install.  The only exceptions to this I can think of are if you have 
> any funky raid drivers or whatever, and that's one of the questions 
> you would be asked during the install.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 11:02 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Stupid Dell
> >
> > T... you need to work on coming out of your shell a bit and saying 
> > what you think.
> >
> > All this holding stuff in can't be healthy :)
> >
> > On 6/16/06, John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Tell your tech support guy I said he's an idiot that should do his 
> > > job instead of making excuses :)
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:53 AM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: Stupid Dell
> > > >
> > > > My tech support guy says that yes, while the drivers are there, 
> > > > they're not the ones that work during install.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know - it doesn't necessarily make sense to me, either.
> > > >
> > > > On 6/16/06, John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Go to support.dell.com
> > > > >
> > > > > Type in the service tag on the machine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Download your drivers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Honestly, I hate it when people talk smack on Dell.  I have 
> > > > > like
> > > > > 4
> > of
> > > > their
> > > > > boxes and never have any problems with them.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 10:31 AM
> > > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > > Subject: Stupid Dell
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, I got a new work computer. It's a Dell. The first thing 
> > > > > > I
> > always
> > > > > > do with a new computer, particularly a Dell, is reinstall a
> > generic
> > > > > > copy of windows and partition the drive. I try to do that. BSOD.
> > > > > > Lovely. We pass it off to our internal tech support, as they 
> > > > > > don't
> > pay
> > > > > > me to do hardware stuff. As it turns out, Dell has now 
> > > > > > started shipping computers with no disks, and no way 
> > > > > > (apparently) to
> > download
> > > > > > drivers. So, while tech support has currently gotten it past 
> > > > > > the
> > BSOD
> > > > > > (it was a conflict with the video card and hyperthreading, 
> > > > > > or some such), it now doesn't see the hard drive, because 
> > > > > > it's a SATA hard drive and you need to preinstall the 
> > > > > > (nonexistant)
> drivers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh, and 30g of the drive is taken up by a "back up install" 
> > > > > > of the orginal system config, because Dell's new support 
> > > > > > model is "roll
> > back
> > > > > > to fresh install" if there are issues. Lovely.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just want a computer - I don't want your 8 million Dell 
> > > > > > specific reminders, popups, and gobbleydegooks. ARG!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rant over.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> 



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