Belief is entirely voluntary. Gender isn't. Being a Jew isn't voluntary. Being Jewish is.(Yes, there's a distinction, isn't there?) Anyway, you are entirely permitted to become a Christian, Muslim, Jew, or whatever else... if you don't, then it's your fault only. When you are told to believe that magnetism works because atoms are aligned in a particular manner, you can believe that, or choose not to. Either way, it still works. Religion is just like that. Whether or not you believe, whatever one is the right believe is going to win. If it's the way that I beleive, then I get to go to Heaven and you go to Hell. I did not create that belief, but I chose to accept it based on many factors. Now, say that I'm wrong and Muslims are right. I'd be an infidel, and of course would go to wherever infidels go after death. Whether or not I'm a good person doesn't come into play, only my belief. It's doesn't matter that I was raised a Christian (which isn't true for me). It doesn't matter what I do, I'd have to follow the rules of their game to do what they say is right.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 11:35 PM Subject: Re: My Convictions have a Price! > See, that is a ridiculous statment. Of course it is you and your > religion that is excluding someone. Whether you are right and wrong > _is_ irrelevent, I agree. But lack of belief is no more voluntary for > most people than belief is to others. If it was logical and voluntary, > it wouldn't be "belief". > > It is exaclty like the 8 year-old boys in my neighborhood growing up > that forbid girls to enter the "fort". It wasn't us or our club > excluding the girls, it was their fault for being born girls. > > (I decided on this example, rather than Nazi/Jews or KKK/Black and > Jews, to remove the immediate rejection of the comparison). > > On 9/15/06, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > .... What most don't get is that >> it's not me or the religion who's excluding someone, it's that person and >> their disbelief. Whether we're right or wrong is irrelevant to the >> debate. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:215515 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5