I'll take a muffin dammit. I'm feeling picked on. I need to pass a lab test tomorrow.
On 11/28/06, Todd Ashworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The thing that I am most uncomfortable with is you (and others defending the > police actions as seen on the recording) seem to be saying that it is > alright for police to assume someone is guilty of something and then begin > applying punishment for the 'crime' as they see fit. "The kid won't show > his ID. He is obviously guilty of .. something. Apply punishment." I > think this is what a lot of it comes down to. The police were not keeping > the peace. The police took a tool that is designed incapacitate someone, as > an alternative to shooting them in self defense, and used it in a punitive > fashion instead. They were not detaining him with it. They were punishing > him with it. I don't know how much clearer it can be. They seemed more > concerned with teaching him a lesson than simply picking him up, tossing him > in the back of the car and driving off before any of them caused a minor > riot. You don't have a problem with this? With your comments suggesting > "The little bastard deserved it.", I suppose not. Perhaps I am > misunderstanding, but you seem to be leaning more towards the 'martial law' > you are complaining about .. "There will be a 11 PM curfew at the library. > Violators will be tazerd on sight." > > I am not defending the kid. I think the kid was being an ass and trying to > put on a show, as you said. Both he and the police handled the situation .. > poorly. The police simply crossed the line. > > Also, please, quit trying to drag this down into an issue of politics. You > may dislike the kid for his apparent political leanings and want to see him > get his hippy, liberal ass kicked for expressing them in a very poor and > ill-timed way, but politics has little else to do with this. > > > On a side, I was just thinking yesterday that I remember when this list was > about almost everything but politics. It's now what every other posting is > about and it annoys the heck out of me. Where did all of the love go? > *sniff* > > I demand muffins and sweaters. And puppies. And sweater-puppies. Oh, and > kittens. Maybe even a horse or two. Leave the frying pans at the door, > though. > > PT > ----- > Nuking the politics for a better last 5 years. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Stroz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: more civil rights goodness > > > > Nothing you can say can convince me that this schmuck is a 'victim'. It > > belittles the term when we throw it around so freely. He was being > > belligerent, and probably trying to show off for some of his liberal > friends > > and fighting the 'system'. > > > > I think its safe to assume that someone who is in place they should not > be, > > and refusing to show ID, is probably doing something they should not be > > doing. > > > > Once again, don't criticize until or unless you have walked a mile in > their > > shoes. In today's society, being a police officer is probably one of the > > most difficult jobs in this country. Between the liberals, who seem to > want > > no police force, and the conservatives, who seem to want martial law, it > > must be extremely difficult to make a decision knowing you will get > > criticized by one side or the other. > > > > -- > > Scott Stroz > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:221368 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5