I separate them just fine Robert.... it's just that saying that well, RJ Reynolds killed a million people or two pushing a product that they knew damn well was lethal, but their stockholders who made a profit thereby are all really nice people individually just doesn't do it for me somehow. I hear you on South Africa but you are right, it doesn't usually work that way.
As for your question -- well both are true so why should I pick one? It is the nature of the beast to be amoral, but when the instance is say Flying Star coffee shops it is less dangerous than instances that play with lethal products and have the money -- read power -- to make sure that no rules apply to them. thanks for a thoughtful response. Dana On 2/26/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you read Post Capitalist Society, by Peter Drucker? We are > corporations, because we own them, bit by bit, through funds and pensions. > > Corporations do not have the responsibilities of individuals, but the > individuals who make up the staff and shareholders of corporations do. > Pension plans and investment funds own the majority of wealth in U.S. > corporations. And who are they accountable to? Individuals. That doesn't > mean those individuals can command the corporations to do as they see fit, > but there is some accountability. > > CEOs and boards still have too much power, in the opinions of some people, > but on the really big, important issues, individuals can make a difference. > Individual people shamed US corporations into divesting from South Africa, > helping to lead to the collapse of apartheid. That was effective use of > individual power against corporate power for social good. > > No, it doesn't generally work out that way, and yes, corporations will still > win most of the battles they fight. Is your main issue the balance of power > between corporations and the public? Or is it the amoral nature of the > corporate entity? I can't tell, exactly. I hear what you are saying, I just > don't think you can separate the corporate entities from the people that run > them and own them. > > > > On 2/25/07, Dana wrote: > > > > i'm behind at work and on 2 side products and i know how deaf you can > > be. And I'm pecking all this out on a tablet. I plain don't have time > > to play, except that the smug tone of the early part of this thread > > got to me. > > > > but ok. Did you ever see the movie A Civil Affair? > > > > http://imdb.com/title/tt0120633/ > > > > > > -- > --------------- > Robert Munn > www.funkymojo.com > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. Upgrade & see new features. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:228919 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
