That's not what I see on the news or hear from the people I know that are there.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:07 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Today's Patraeus: Wow. > > what are you using to measure violence and death toll? From the > statistics I've seen, military deaths aren't declining. From what > I've heard, the violence isn't declining, it's just scattering out to > the less concentrated areas. > > On 9/12/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's what I'm saying. > > > > The man gets up there in the face of an obviously hostile body and > answers > > their questions honestly and gets nothing for it. He has put in > place > > projects and plans that have lowered violence and the death toll, and > gets > > nothing. > > > > But wait, the left supports our troops right? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 8:25 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Today's Patraeus: Wow. > > > > > > No kudos to Patraeus for giving an honest answer as well? > > > > > > On 9/11/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > It's a question of military judgement asked of a military > commander. > > > > My personal favorite (I was in and out but listened to a lot of > it) > > > > was when he was asked if there was any evidence of a link between > > > 9/11 > > > > and Iraq. To which he responded, not to my knowledge. And by the > way > > > > -- kudos to Senator Byrd for cutting through a lot of the > rhetoric > > > and > > > > coming to the point. > > > > > > > > On 9/11/07, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > That was a loaded question by a politician trying to score > points. > > > > Petraeus > > > > > gave an honest answer. An even better answer would have been to > say > > > that > > > > > such political judgments were for the civilian leadership to > make. > > > > > > > > > > The counter-question to Warner's question is this- if we change > > > course > > > > and > > > > > pull out our troops, would America be less safe? Would > America's > > > > national > > > > > security interests be harmed by a civil war in Iraq, or by a > wider > > > > conflict > > > > > that draws in Turkey, Syria, Iran, and Saudi Arabia? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 9/11/07, Gruss wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sen Warner: > > > > > > "Are you able to say at this time, if we continue what you've > > > laid > > > > > > before the Congress here as a strategy, do you feel that is > > > making > > > > > > America safer?" Warner asked. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gen Petraeus: > > > > > > "Sir, I believe that this is indeed the best course of action > to > > > > > > achieve our objectives in Iraq." > > > > > > > > > > > > Sen Warner: > > > > > > "Does that make America safer?" Warner asked again. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gen Petraeus: > > > > > > "Sir, I don't know actually." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Get the answers you are looking for on the ColdFusion Labs Forum direct from active programmers and developers. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/webforums/forum/categories.cfm?forumid-72&catid=648 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:242236 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5