Matt No because "race" is not a single trait. It covers skin tone, eyecolor, eye shape, hair texture and probably more. Intelligence is also probably not a single trait, even if we limit ourselves to the type of intelligence that is measured on IQ tests.
that said, I feel like I am starting to repeat myself and I probably won't have time to debate this any more now that we are into the work week. I'll probably read eventually though if anyone else cares to get into this. On 10/29/07, Chesty Puller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wait a second... > > I'm saying it's true or it ain't. But with the number of evolution > arguments I've seen on this list (in regards to ID), I just don't see how a > person could believe in evolution and then turn around and discredit the > notion that subspecies might be able to be classified by intelligence. It's > done with dogs and cats, why not humans? African-Americans get sickle-cell > anemia more than other groups, due to biological differences. You're saying > that the same can't be done with intelligence? According to evolutionary > theory, we are all just animals with different abilities, strengths and > weaknesses. Calling this notion racism is in fact political correctness run > amok. > > - Matt > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judah McAuley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <cf-community@houseoffusion.com> > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 1:56 AM > Subject: Re: AYFKM? > > > > Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Nevertheless, you make many good points, however none of them explain > >> why it is not possible that intelligence is correlated with skin > >> color, which was Dr. Watson point. > >> > >> I'm just saying it's possible. That's all. To call it racist seems > >> to reject logic in favor of political correctness. > > > > I don't think that anyone has categorically rejected the idea that it is > > possible that there is some factor that could link in some fashion > > skin tone and some measure of intelligence. > > > > But you are asking us to try and prove a negative. Why should I prove > > that intelligence couldn't be correlated with skin tone? The null > > hypothesis is that there would be no difference between "races" in > > intelligence measures. You've provided no good reason to believe that > > the null hypothesis is not true. We call it racist because the primary > > reason that people want to believe the null hypothesis is not true > > without a decent theory and evidence is because they are racists. > > > > Why would increased intelligence not be selected for in any culture? > > What mechanisms would limit the development in certain cultures? What > > genetic components of intelligence would be linked to skin tone? > > > > I'm willing to believe that there may exist some answers to these > > questions and some of them may indicate something like a higher > > frequency of a mutation in a gene that helps out with, say, spatial > > recognition within a group that historically represents an interbreeding > > population. > > > > As far as I am aware though, there is not any research that currently > > shows anything of the sort. And even that result would be far short of > > anything you could link to a broader measure of "intelligence" which > > encompasses many aspects that you'd be hard pressed to link to any small > > concrete set of genetic markers. > > > > You claim political correctness run amok because people don't want to > > admit the possibility of a link between race and intelligence. But you > > don't have a good definition of race or intelligence (at the genetic > > level) nor do you offer any plausible reason why there *should* be a > > difference. And hypothesizing, as Dr Watson does, that one racial group > > has less native intelligence than another without any evidence other > > than personal prejudice is, in fact, racism. > > > > Judah > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:245396 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
