>I thnk the point though, is that it is possible to believe that a >given deed is wrong without fearing that some guy with a beard is >going to strike you down for committing it.
In a word, yes. The ancient Greeks (ie., Socrates and Plato for instance) discussed ethics and morality without reference to a deity. There's an entire branch of philosophy that discusses the concepts, again without referencing a deity. In developmental psychology, the area of moral development, again does not refer religion. so yes its possible to "live the good life" or a moral and ethical life without referring to religion. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Get involved in the latest ColdFusion discussions, product development sharing, and articles on the Adobe Labs wiki. http://labs/adobe.com/wiki/index.php/ColdFusion_8 Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:246119 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5