how exactly does this help those without? And since when are you in
favor of the government giving poor people money? This is a gag,
right?

I think the reason I would lose out is that I have pretty big
deductions under the current system. My standard deduction is 7500 I
think and I had three people in college last year. Add in the child
tax credit and I can make quite a bit before I owe significant taxes.
I may this year... but i look over-withheld, was looking at that the
other day.

On the other hand... did someone say that payroll taxes would go away?
If so I might revise my opinion.

On 1e current /27/08, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well thats an awful selfish stance for a lib like you to take.  I though
> you were above self interest, from those wit th those without and all that?
>
> Dana wrote:
> > um. You are bringing logic to an ideological fight. I actually lose money
> > under the fair tax btw.... about 900. So I would not be a fan.
> >
> > On Jan 25, 2008 12:25 PM, morgan l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Well, I could move to MS (just one example of a very low cost-of-living
> >> area), where the cost of living is about 1/2 of where I live. I'd lose my
> >> job, meaning I'd end up making minimum wage... way less than 1/2 of what I
> >> make now. I'd be even worse off. Of course, I'd make low enough income to
> >> go
> >> on welfare and foodstamps.
> >>
> >> I already live in the lowest-cost region for 100's of miles. And the job I
> >> have pays twice what I've ever made before, significantly more than what
> >> my
> >> neighbors bring in, and significantly more than most employers would pay
> >> for
> >> someone with my education background, despite my actual ability.
> >>
> >> So yes, I choose to stay in my affordable, modest-sized single-family (as
> >> long as the "family" has no kids) home, making middle-class income rather
> >> than going on welfare. Because honestly, those are my only options.
> >>
> >> On Jan 25, 2008 12:47 PM, Peterson, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> You do make a choice to stay living in the area you are, with the job
> >>> you have.  Being fearful of a choice does not invalidate that a choice
> >>> existed!
> >>>
> >>> Chris Peterson
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: morgan l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:44 AM
> >>> To: CF-Community
> >>> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, been there; read that. Sounds great, for people who spend < 60% of
> >>> their income--you only get taxed on 60% of your income. Those of us who
> >>> spend closer to 100%, or even more than that with credit, are screwed.
> >>> Ok,
> >>> so if they're spending more via credit, they're doing it to themselves.
> >>> But
> >>> for me, living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to save
> >>> any of
> >>> my monthly income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes that way
> >>> that the current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me.
> >>>
> >>> And I don't exactly choose to spend 100% of my monthly income, unless
> >>> choosing to buy groceries, live in a meager/affordable home, and drive
> >>> to
> >>> work (no public transportation available) so I can keep my paycheck
> >>> coming
> >>> in are choices. I'm not talking extravagant expenses like HDTVs or PS3s.
> >>>
> >>> Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Jan 25, 2008 10:29 AM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> http://www.fairtax.org
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Scott Stewart
> >>>> ColdFusion Developer
> >>>>
> >>>> SSTWebworks
> >>>> 4405 Oakshyre Way
> >>>> Raleigh, NC. 27616
> >>>> (919) 874-6229 (home)
> >>>> (703) 220-2835 (cell)
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:03 AM
> >>>> To: CF-Community
> >>>> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes actually.  It's much much more.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Cameron
> >>>>
> >>>> Billy Cox wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Are you saying that it is something other than a 20%+ national sales
> >>>>>
> >>> tax
> >>>
> >>>>> along with the repeal of the federal income tax?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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