how exactly does this help those without? And since when are you in favor of the government giving poor people money? This is a gag, right?
I think the reason I would lose out is that I have pretty big deductions under the current system. My standard deduction is 7500 I think and I had three people in college last year. Add in the child tax credit and I can make quite a bit before I owe significant taxes. I may this year... but i look over-withheld, was looking at that the other day. On the other hand... did someone say that payroll taxes would go away? If so I might revise my opinion. On 1e current /27/08, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well thats an awful selfish stance for a lib like you to take. I though > you were above self interest, from those wit th those without and all that? > > Dana wrote: > > um. You are bringing logic to an ideological fight. I actually lose money > > under the fair tax btw.... about 900. So I would not be a fan. > > > > On Jan 25, 2008 12:25 PM, morgan l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> Well, I could move to MS (just one example of a very low cost-of-living > >> area), where the cost of living is about 1/2 of where I live. I'd lose my > >> job, meaning I'd end up making minimum wage... way less than 1/2 of what I > >> make now. I'd be even worse off. Of course, I'd make low enough income to > >> go > >> on welfare and foodstamps. > >> > >> I already live in the lowest-cost region for 100's of miles. And the job I > >> have pays twice what I've ever made before, significantly more than what > >> my > >> neighbors bring in, and significantly more than most employers would pay > >> for > >> someone with my education background, despite my actual ability. > >> > >> So yes, I choose to stay in my affordable, modest-sized single-family (as > >> long as the "family" has no kids) home, making middle-class income rather > >> than going on welfare. Because honestly, those are my only options. > >> > >> On Jan 25, 2008 12:47 PM, Peterson, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >>> You do make a choice to stay living in the area you are, with the job > >>> you have. Being fearful of a choice does not invalidate that a choice > >>> existed! > >>> > >>> Chris Peterson > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: morgan l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:44 AM > >>> To: CF-Community > >>> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll > >>> > >>> Yeah, been there; read that. Sounds great, for people who spend < 60% of > >>> their income--you only get taxed on 60% of your income. Those of us who > >>> spend closer to 100%, or even more than that with credit, are screwed. > >>> Ok, > >>> so if they're spending more via credit, they're doing it to themselves. > >>> But > >>> for me, living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to save > >>> any of > >>> my monthly income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes that way > >>> that the current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me. > >>> > >>> And I don't exactly choose to spend 100% of my monthly income, unless > >>> choosing to buy groceries, live in a meager/affordable home, and drive > >>> to > >>> work (no public transportation available) so I can keep my paycheck > >>> coming > >>> in are choices. I'm not talking extravagant expenses like HDTVs or PS3s. > >>> > >>> Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Jan 25, 2008 10:29 AM, Scott Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> http://www.fairtax.org > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Scott Stewart > >>>> ColdFusion Developer > >>>> > >>>> SSTWebworks > >>>> 4405 Oakshyre Way > >>>> Raleigh, NC. 27616 > >>>> (919) 874-6229 (home) > >>>> (703) 220-2835 (cell) > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:03 AM > >>>> To: CF-Community > >>>> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll > >>>> > >>>> Yes actually. It's much much more. > >>>> > >>>> -Cameron > >>>> > >>>> Billy Cox wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Are you saying that it is something other than a 20%+ national sales > >>>>> > >>> tax > >>> > >>>>> along with the repeal of the federal income tax? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:252082 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5