I've looked the website over. Not recently, I admit. But at the lower
end what happens is that people pay *more* tax and are supposed to
trust the government to help them by sending them a rebate. I rest my
case. I'd be against that if I were in that position.

On Jan 28, 2008 7:24 AM, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dana,
>
> Please -- *read* the book!
>
> Or at least peruse fairtax.org until you have all the basics down pat.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Adam Phillip Churvis
> President
> Productivity Enhancement
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:56 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
> >
> > how exactly does this help those without? And since when are you in
> > favor of the government giving poor people money? This is a gag,
> > right?
> >
> > I think the reason I would lose out is that I have pretty big
> > deductions under the current system. My standard deduction is 7500 I
> > think and I had three people in college last year. Add in the child
> > tax credit and I can make quite a bit before I owe significant taxes.
> > I may this year... but i look over-withheld, was looking at that the
> > other day.
> >
> > On the other hand... did someone say that payroll taxes would go away?
> > If so I might revise my opinion.
> >
> > On 1e current /27/08, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Well thats an awful selfish stance for a lib like you to take.  I
> > though
> > > you were above self interest, from those wit th those without and all
> > that?
> > >
> > > Dana wrote:
> > > > um. You are bringing logic to an ideological fight. I actually lose
> > money
> > > > under the fair tax btw.... about 900. So I would not be a fan.
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 25, 2008 12:25 PM, morgan l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Well, I could move to MS (just one example of a very low cost-of-
> > living
> > > >> area), where the cost of living is about 1/2 of where I live. I'd
> > lose my
> > > >> job, meaning I'd end up making minimum wage... way less than 1/2
> > of what I
> > > >> make now. I'd be even worse off. Of course, I'd make low enough
> > income to
> > > >> go
> > > >> on welfare and foodstamps.
> > > >>
> > > >> I already live in the lowest-cost region for 100's of miles. And
> > the job I
> > > >> have pays twice what I've ever made before, significantly more
> > than what
> > > >> my
> > > >> neighbors bring in, and significantly more than most employers
> > would pay
> > > >> for
> > > >> someone with my education background, despite my actual ability.
> > > >>
> > > >> So yes, I choose to stay in my affordable, modest-sized single-
> > family (as
> > > >> long as the "family" has no kids) home, making middle-class income
> > rather
> > > >> than going on welfare. Because honestly, those are my only
> > options.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Jan 25, 2008 12:47 PM, Peterson, Chris
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> You do make a choice to stay living in the area you are, with the
> > job
> > > >>> you have.  Being fearful of a choice does not invalidate that a
> > choice
> > > >>> existed!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Chris Peterson
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> From: morgan l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:44 AM
> > > >>> To: CF-Community
> > > >>> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Yeah, been there; read that. Sounds great, for people who spend <
> > 60% of
> > > >>> their income--you only get taxed on 60% of your income. Those of
> > us who
> > > >>> spend closer to 100%, or even more than that with credit, are
> > screwed.
> > > >>> Ok,
> > > >>> so if they're spending more via credit, they're doing it to
> > themselves.
> > > >>> But
> > > >>> for me, living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to
> > save
> > > >>> any of
> > > >>> my monthly income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes
> > that way
> > > >>> that the current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> And I don't exactly choose to spend 100% of my monthly income,
> > unless
> > > >>> choosing to buy groceries, live in a meager/affordable home, and
> > drive
> > > >>> to
> > > >>> work (no public transportation available) so I can keep my
> > paycheck
> > > >>> coming
> > > >>> in are choices. I'm not talking extravagant expenses like HDTVs
> > or PS3s.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Jan 25, 2008 10:29 AM, Scott Stewart
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> http://www.fairtax.org
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> Scott Stewart
> > > >>>> ColdFusion Developer
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> SSTWebworks
> > > >>>> 4405 Oakshyre Way
> > > >>>> Raleigh, NC. 27616
> > > >>>> (919) 874-6229 (home)
> > > >>>> (703) 220-2835 (cell)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:03 AM
> > > >>>> To: CF-Community
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Yes actually.  It's much much more.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -Cameron
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Billy Cox wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Are you saying that it is something other than a 20%+ national
> > sales
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>> tax
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>> along with the repeal of the federal income tax?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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