I've looked the website over. Not recently, I admit. But at the lower end what happens is that people pay *more* tax and are supposed to trust the government to help them by sending them a rebate. I rest my case. I'd be against that if I were in that position.
On Jan 28, 2008 7:24 AM, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dana, > > Please -- *read* the book! > > Or at least peruse fairtax.org until you have all the basics down pat. > > Respectfully, > > Adam Phillip Churvis > President > Productivity Enhancement > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:56 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll > > > > how exactly does this help those without? And since when are you in > > favor of the government giving poor people money? This is a gag, > > right? > > > > I think the reason I would lose out is that I have pretty big > > deductions under the current system. My standard deduction is 7500 I > > think and I had three people in college last year. Add in the child > > tax credit and I can make quite a bit before I owe significant taxes. > > I may this year... but i look over-withheld, was looking at that the > > other day. > > > > On the other hand... did someone say that payroll taxes would go away? > > If so I might revise my opinion. > > > > On 1e current /27/08, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well thats an awful selfish stance for a lib like you to take. I > > though > > > you were above self interest, from those wit th those without and all > > that? > > > > > > Dana wrote: > > > > um. You are bringing logic to an ideological fight. I actually lose > > money > > > > under the fair tax btw.... about 900. So I would not be a fan. > > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 2008 12:25 PM, morgan l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Well, I could move to MS (just one example of a very low cost-of- > > living > > > >> area), where the cost of living is about 1/2 of where I live. I'd > > lose my > > > >> job, meaning I'd end up making minimum wage... way less than 1/2 > > of what I > > > >> make now. I'd be even worse off. Of course, I'd make low enough > > income to > > > >> go > > > >> on welfare and foodstamps. > > > >> > > > >> I already live in the lowest-cost region for 100's of miles. And > > the job I > > > >> have pays twice what I've ever made before, significantly more > > than what > > > >> my > > > >> neighbors bring in, and significantly more than most employers > > would pay > > > >> for > > > >> someone with my education background, despite my actual ability. > > > >> > > > >> So yes, I choose to stay in my affordable, modest-sized single- > > family (as > > > >> long as the "family" has no kids) home, making middle-class income > > rather > > > >> than going on welfare. Because honestly, those are my only > > options. > > > >> > > > >> On Jan 25, 2008 12:47 PM, Peterson, Chris > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> You do make a choice to stay living in the area you are, with the > > job > > > >>> you have. Being fearful of a choice does not invalidate that a > > choice > > > >>> existed! > > > >>> > > > >>> Chris Peterson > > > >>> > > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>> From: morgan l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:44 AM > > > >>> To: CF-Community > > > >>> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll > > > >>> > > > >>> Yeah, been there; read that. Sounds great, for people who spend < > > 60% of > > > >>> their income--you only get taxed on 60% of your income. Those of > > us who > > > >>> spend closer to 100%, or even more than that with credit, are > > screwed. > > > >>> Ok, > > > >>> so if they're spending more via credit, they're doing it to > > themselves. > > > >>> But > > > >>> for me, living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to > > save > > > >>> any of > > > >>> my monthly income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes > > that way > > > >>> that the current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me. > > > >>> > > > >>> And I don't exactly choose to spend 100% of my monthly income, > > unless > > > >>> choosing to buy groceries, live in a meager/affordable home, and > > drive > > > >>> to > > > >>> work (no public transportation available) so I can keep my > > paycheck > > > >>> coming > > > >>> in are choices. I'm not talking extravagant expenses like HDTVs > > or PS3s. > > > >>> > > > >>> Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Jan 25, 2008 10:29 AM, Scott Stewart > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> http://www.fairtax.org > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -- > > > >>>> Scott Stewart > > > >>>> ColdFusion Developer > > > >>>> > > > >>>> SSTWebworks > > > >>>> 4405 Oakshyre Way > > > >>>> Raleigh, NC. 27616 > > > >>>> (919) 874-6229 (home) > > > >>>> (703) 220-2835 (cell) > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -----Original Message----- > > > >>>> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >>>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:03 AM > > > >>>> To: CF-Community > > > >>>> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Yes actually. It's much much more. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -Cameron > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Billy Cox wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Are you saying that it is something other than a 20%+ national > > sales > > > >>>>> > > > >>> tax > > > >>> > > > >>>>> along with the repeal of the federal income tax? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:252237 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5