Dana,

Please -- *read* the book!

Or at least peruse fairtax.org until you have all the basics down pat.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis 
President
Productivity Enhancement

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 10:56 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
> 
> how exactly does this help those without? And since when are you in
> favor of the government giving poor people money? This is a gag,
> right?
> 
> I think the reason I would lose out is that I have pretty big
> deductions under the current system. My standard deduction is 7500 I
> think and I had three people in college last year. Add in the child
> tax credit and I can make quite a bit before I owe significant taxes.
> I may this year... but i look over-withheld, was looking at that the
> other day.
> 
> On the other hand... did someone say that payroll taxes would go away?
> If so I might revise my opinion.
> 
> On 1e current /27/08, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well thats an awful selfish stance for a lib like you to take.  I
> though
> > you were above self interest, from those wit th those without and all
> that?
> >
> > Dana wrote:
> > > um. You are bringing logic to an ideological fight. I actually lose
> money
> > > under the fair tax btw.... about 900. So I would not be a fan.
> > >
> > > On Jan 25, 2008 12:25 PM, morgan l <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Well, I could move to MS (just one example of a very low cost-of-
> living
> > >> area), where the cost of living is about 1/2 of where I live. I'd
> lose my
> > >> job, meaning I'd end up making minimum wage... way less than 1/2
> of what I
> > >> make now. I'd be even worse off. Of course, I'd make low enough
> income to
> > >> go
> > >> on welfare and foodstamps.
> > >>
> > >> I already live in the lowest-cost region for 100's of miles. And
> the job I
> > >> have pays twice what I've ever made before, significantly more
> than what
> > >> my
> > >> neighbors bring in, and significantly more than most employers
> would pay
> > >> for
> > >> someone with my education background, despite my actual ability.
> > >>
> > >> So yes, I choose to stay in my affordable, modest-sized single-
> family (as
> > >> long as the "family" has no kids) home, making middle-class income
> rather
> > >> than going on welfare. Because honestly, those are my only
> options.
> > >>
> > >> On Jan 25, 2008 12:47 PM, Peterson, Chris
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> You do make a choice to stay living in the area you are, with the
> job
> > >>> you have.  Being fearful of a choice does not invalidate that a
> choice
> > >>> existed!
> > >>>
> > >>> Chris Peterson
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: morgan l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:44 AM
> > >>> To: CF-Community
> > >>> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
> > >>>
> > >>> Yeah, been there; read that. Sounds great, for people who spend <
> 60% of
> > >>> their income--you only get taxed on 60% of your income. Those of
> us who
> > >>> spend closer to 100%, or even more than that with credit, are
> screwed.
> > >>> Ok,
> > >>> so if they're spending more via credit, they're doing it to
> themselves.
> > >>> But
> > >>> for me, living paycheck to paycheck barely getting by, unable to
> save
> > >>> any of
> > >>> my monthly income, I'd actually pay significantly more in taxes
> that way
> > >>> that the current system. Doesn't quite seem "fair" to me.
> > >>>
> > >>> And I don't exactly choose to spend 100% of my monthly income,
> unless
> > >>> choosing to buy groceries, live in a meager/affordable home, and
> drive
> > >>> to
> > >>> work (no public transportation available) so I can keep my
> paycheck
> > >>> coming
> > >>> in are choices. I'm not talking extravagant expenses like HDTVs
> or PS3s.
> > >>>
> > >>> Dammit, I swore I'd stay out of these political discussions.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Jan 25, 2008 10:29 AM, Scott Stewart
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> http://www.fairtax.org
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Scott Stewart
> > >>>> ColdFusion Developer
> > >>>>
> > >>>> SSTWebworks
> > >>>> 4405 Oakshyre Way
> > >>>> Raleigh, NC. 27616
> > >>>> (919) 874-6229 (home)
> > >>>> (703) 220-2835 (cell)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:03 AM
> > >>>> To: CF-Community
> > >>>> Subject: Re: CF-Community Presidential Poll
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Yes actually.  It's much much more.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -Cameron
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Billy Cox wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Are you saying that it is something other than a 20%+ national
> sales
> > >>>>>
> > >>> tax
> > >>>
> > >>>>> along with the repeal of the federal income tax?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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