" Where I have a problem is in the Government giving my tax dollars to individuals, couples or groups doing things that I find morally wrong. I don't care if you're talking about stem-cells, same sex marriage or abortion!"
You'll have to site examples, while there are PAC's concerned with these issues I dont think they get gov't funds. " Also, my gripe with schools goes WAY beyond prayer. Telling a choir or band that they cannot perform a piece of music because it has religious reference is something that sticks in my craw pretty hard. So is telling a group of students that they cannot gather on school property before classes start but after the school opens to hold any kind of religious gathering." I think people have gone to far with things, but I understand why. The primary purpose of public schools is to provide an education for all children, not to evangelize to them. So school systems instead of trying to find an equitable solution for everyone, went to the extreme and banned all of it. If the Christian kids want to have a group at school, fine, provided that the Jewish kids, Hindu kids, Islamic kids, Pagans, Wiccans, and Atheists are afforded the exact same opportunity. " Yet we as Christians are supposed to blindly accept it when someone belittles our belief system? We're supposed to turn a blind eye to schools teaching our children, by example and reference, that things such as premarital sex and gender bending are things that they are supposed to do? It's not our right to tell someone to watch their language around our children? Our hard earned tax dollars are supposed to be funneled into abortion clinics?" I think you're blowing things way out of proportion. Public schools do not teach that pre-marital sex, "gender bending", or homosexuality are things that are supposed to be done. Morality isn't something that should be taught in schools, that is the exclusive right and responsibility of parents. And by the way, your tax dollars aren't funneled into abortion clinics, any more than their funneled into orthopedic offices, or family practices. Like it or not abortion is legal in the US, like guns, what people choose to do with it is up to them. " I will say this - we are a lot LESS of a "Christian" nation than we were some 60 years ago. Blue laws have been repealed. The FCC allows a lot more on the air. Cable, satellite and Internet have made the world an extremely small place and let groups get their message out louder than before (with enough money). Remember that at one time there was a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT that banned the sale or consumption of alcohol." Because there are A LOT more non Christians in the US than there were sixty years ago. The government can't simply dismiss people that dont fall into a specific religious mold. Yes Blue Laws have been repealed because they serve no purpose. The FCC allows more on TV, but you also have a remote, if you don't like what's on, or dont want your kids to watch it, change the channel, don't ask the government to do it for you. The 18th Amendment didn't work, it simply forced drinking underground, and put a lot of people out of work and almost killed an industry. We should never be a "Christian Nation", because we must maintain the sanctity of the Constitution, and we must be a place where all religions have the freedom to worship, where, when and how they choose, without fear of repression or reprisal, or to not practice any religion if it's their choice. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) -----Original Message----- From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 1:27 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Religious Nuts and Bolts (was Re: The Florida Result) > Given that your popular view is the Constitution, I go > for the constitution. As for homosexuality, they're > people right, don't they have the right of association? > Given that homosexuality is physiologically based, > denying them rights based on a physical feature is > akin to denying minority groups the right to marry > based on their physical features. Where I have a problem is in the Government giving my tax dollars to individuals, couples or groups doing things that I find morally wrong. I don't care if you're talking about stem-cells, same sex marriage or abortion! > As for prayer in schools, schools are a government > institution, it would be a violation of the establishment > clause if they were school sponsored. So long as there are tests, there will continue to be prayer in school... okay, it's an old joke but it fits here. Also, my gripe with schools goes WAY beyond prayer. Telling a choir or band that they cannot perform a piece of music because it has religious reference is something that sticks in my craw pretty hard. So is telling a group of students that they cannot gather on school property before classes start but after the school opens to hold any kind of religious gathering. > You are, you're not required not to worship at your church, just that > you do not require the rest of us to worship your deity. Your rights > end when they interfere with the rights of others. Yet we as Christians are supposed to blindly accept it when someone belittles our belief system? We're supposed to turn a blind eye to schools teaching our children, by example and reference, that things such as premarital sex and gender bending are things that they are supposed to do? It's not our right to tell someone to watch their language around our children? Our hard earned tax dollars are supposed to be funneled into abortion clinics? I will say this - we are a lot LESS of a "Christian" nation than we were some 60 years ago. Blue laws have been repealed. The FCC allows a lot more on the air. Cable, satellite and Internet have made the world an extremely small place and let groups get their message out louder than before (with enough money). Remember that at one time there was a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT that banned the sale or consumption of alcohol. 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