wow. You carry weapons don't you? People do that quite a bit in war zones?

I am sorry, but I can't get past the notion that here is a Canadian
citizen who has been held incommunicado for five years. And he's what,
18? Now? If he did throw the rock, perhaps he should have been treated
as a child soldier. A quick google shows that the solder died (my
mistake) but also that the kid was injured, says he was tortured, and
has been denied medical care or psychiatric evaluation.

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/329/7474/1066-a?etoc

I submit that this kid is a "terrorist" because they want to pressure
his family. He's not high-value. His family is.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/08/AR2005060802358_pf.html

On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> He was caught throwing the rock, after which he admitted to carrying
> weapons and killing Americans.
>
> Not the same thing Dana, tell the rest of the story.
>
> Dana wrote:
> > There is a Canadian teenager who has been in Guantanamo for six years
> > for throwing a rock at a soldier in Afghanistan. I don't condone
> > throwing rocks at soldiers, but that seems little disproportionate,
> > esp since the soldier was not injured. I worry about a system that
> > labels children who think they are defending their village as
> > terrorists. Turns out his *father* is a key bad guy. Ah. We have
> > actually kidnapped a child to pressure a parent. That's better,
> > right??
> >
> >  Also, there are a multitude of stories about waiters being detained
> > because they served lunch to an al-Qaeda fighter, taxi drivers being
> > tortured to death at Bagram, and lawyers being detained for months in
> > error. If even one of these stories is true, that is a problem.
> >
> > You're trusting the government again.
> >
> > On 2/29/08, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Again the only people that I see whose civil liberties are being
> >> violated are the ones who are doing something wrong, and at that point
> >> you forfeit these liberties. I believe that the intent of this whole
> >> thing is to speed up the investigative process and not mire it up
> >> waiting for some judge or grand jury issue a subpoena. And let's not
> >> forget that there are leaks all throughout the government, so again if
> >> you run it through legal channels, you risk the perpetrators being 
> >> notified.
> >>
> >> Dana wrote:
> >>> I don't know the book, but answers like this scare the hell out of
> >>> *me*... why is it that people who are in favor of de-funding the
> >>> government also favor turning our civil liberties over to its tender
> >>> mercies
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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