What you just described isn't "sport"; it's luxury. And the electronic systems you mentioned don't provide road feedback (there are no force-feedback systems for cars that I know of). In fact, most of the higher-end fast cars today have some sort of automatic compensation system that individually brakes wheels and even provides rear steering compensation -- just so it corrects the poor driving of amateurs with more money than skill. The higher-end Audis have it these days.
With the 280Z you have the *ability* to control, if you have the skill to match. The newer cars you describe *subjugate* that control, so you *can't* have "control" because something else is controlling it for you. That isn't "sport." In 1979 I trained in a van Diemen Formula Ford at Le Circuit in Mont Tremblant, Quebec for three days, and I have been hooked on providing my own control ever since. The only thing assisted in that car, IIRC, was a small hydraulic cylinder for the braking system. Man, I couldn't believe how different it was to wear a car like a body glove, and have it do *exactly* what you wanted it to (after enough training, that is). You could feel every little thing happening on the road, to the car, in the air. You could feel how the car "slipped" differently when the tires were cold and when they were hot, and you could dial-in exactly where the front wheels were throughout the path of a corner based on how the engine felt as you engine-braked, how the tires felt, how the engine sounded (cold engines were slower to react), etc. *THAT'S* sport, my friend. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis President Productivity Enhancement > -----Original Message----- > From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 11:29 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: New Electric Cars! > > Yes well... > > what about people that want all that sports car feel, but want to > steer from monday to Saturday with their pinky finger and on Sunday > give it a whirl? > > I think that they will start offering power steering as an option > after they sell a few. > But yes I hear you about the road feedback. > > However the latest electronic systems don't seem to have too much > trouble providing that feedback to the driver in various ways. > > Plus, remember you have those wonderful traction control, electronic > stability and ABS systems to assist you. So you're never going to be > as much out of control *cough* uhh..'Pure' as that old 280Z. > > On 02/03/2008, Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I could feel every little nuance of the road through the steering > wheel. And yes, you did build some muscle steering and shifting. > > > > If I were buying a Tesla, I would hope that it didn't have power > steering. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;160198600;22374440;w Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:255298 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
