On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 2:53 PM, sam morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >No, he didn't. He stated the REALITY, and said it can change...it MUST
> >change. Not ONCE did he say "get used to it". You think you can just make
> >stuff up and we won't notice????
>
> That is not REALITY and you are a racist to think it is. That's reality.


Unbelievable. You don't think racism exists? And you think that
acknowledging that racism DOES exist....is racist?

It was clearly implied that if even his loving grandmother was racist we all
> must be.


Clearly implied, huh? Why didn't I pick up on it? Why didn't anyone else
pick up on it? How come only YOU picked up on?

What is "clear" is that nothing has changed.....you won't hear anything
other than what you expect to hear.

>he stated a reality...many of the same type of rhetoric IS present in black
> >churches....in black schools....around the dinner table in black homes.
> Yes,
> >that is true.
>
> Bullshit. You accept his claim that all blacks are racist?


HE NEVER CLAIMED THAT!

Goddamnit, would you please pay attention?? Here we go:

SOME blacks ARE racist.

Got that? Following me here?

Do I accept his claim that some blacks are racist? Yes, yes I do.


> Yes they exist but that's a very big brush you use. Like saying all whites
> are racist because you know a few.


That would be a big brush, IF he had said that....but he didn't...and he
didn't "clearly imply" it either.

the problem here is you. That much is plain and simple. That may be the
greatest lesson of this speech...the reaction from people like you. Never
has it been so painfully clear where the problem lies, and why change is so
difficult.....


> Why bring his daughters to him if he wanted change? Why not talk to the
> Preacher and start where it matters the most, with the guy that's lecturing
> his kids?


He's hoping for something more.....your response suggests he doesn't have a
chance.

You can't excuse racism by saying everybody does it or most people do it or
> there's a reason people are racist. That doesn't give it a pass.


Amazing that you equate "understanding" with "excusing". Did you
conveniently ignore the entire section where he suggested that african
americans need to rise above the culture of victimhood that can arise from
the history of slavery? That they must be responsible for themselves and for
their families TODAY? The slavery of the past is a reality that shouldn't be
ignored...but it can't be used as an excuse for the present or the future.

But hey, you can ignore that part if it makes you feel better.....we'll
pretend he didn't say that.


>
> 

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