I agree with her that Islam is still in a very primitive state, and
hasn't had the time to evolve the way Christianity or even Hinduism
has evolved. All these religions have their fanatical roots, and their
horrific histories attached to them.

However in a world where we have nuclear weapons, biological agents,
terror attacks etc. how do we reconcile allowing worship, and allowing
the religion to grow and evolve while still maintaining the laws and
order of our societies that we've all fought hard for?

On 01/04/2008, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wow, have you all seen these videos from Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Islam and the
>  West?
>
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3BBLt6bLMA
>
>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkHxpZfHd4c

>  Her argument is that Islam is still catching up to Western civilization
>  since the 10th-11th centuries, when Europeans started to travel the world
>  and learn from other societies. Europeans learned the value of studying and
>  copying ideas from others. while Islam believed that all answers lay in the
>  Koran, and the Arab Islamic Empire turned away from the outside world. The
>  Islamic world still believes in the primacy of the Koran, and as a result
>  people like President Ahmedinejad of Iran are fanatics who welcome death,
>  who will not be dissuaded by sanctions, and who will acquire nuclear weapons
>  and use them against Israel without a second thought.

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