Judith was having a conversation the other night with someone and their take on things was that we're arrogant for wanting to force our norms on others. Things like no slavery, no pedophilia (child brides), no killing, etc. I guess we can't force other countries to be civilized by our standards. Even if the countries are part of the UN or other treaty groups we should not force them to abide by those treaties because it would be arrogant to enforce our norms. So bottom line is that everyone should stick their heads in the sand and let everyone else do what they want. But isn't that what's already happening? Slavery is rampant in Africa and no one is stopping it. Why? Because we're already pulling back from enforcing our norms on others.
But here's where the argument falls down. If we should let other countries and cultures 'grow' out of their barbaric (by our perspective) practices then how should we act when people from those countries/cultures come to ours? Should we respect their ideals or force compliance to our culture and rules? If the argument goes one way then it goes the other as well. If Muslims are migrating to European countries then they should conform to the laws of those countries. If Europeans are migrating to Muslim countries (they're not allowed to) then they should comply to their laws. Its a two way street. So when a German court allows a husband to beat his wife because its part of his religion, he should be stopped because its not the local norms. If a man has multiple wives he should be stopped as that is not conforming to the local norms. If we should respect them, whoever them might be, then they should respect us. Problem is, 'they' don't respect us or our norms while we are expected to respect theirs. So we're playing by the rules and they're not. Result? They'll win. Whoever they may be. On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do you do that without strangling and clamping down on the > religion as a whole? > > How do you pass laws or enforce laws aimed at Islam specifically > without being discriminatory? > > On 01/04/2008, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Find a way to remove the violence. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:257726 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
