>
> Hey, if someone WANTS a circumcision, no problem.  I disagree with doing
> it
> to individuals who have no choice in the matter.

Babies have no choice in any matter. We force them to nurse or not. We force
them to wear diapers when they want to be naked. We taken them for shots and
on and on. Your argument fails because the individuals with no choice don't
have the facility for choice.

> And this is all besides the point that the social norm in this country is
> > to
> > allow it. People can try to change the norm, but until it is changed, it
> > should be respected.
> >
>
> Isn't it the norm for honor killings in muslim countries?  Are you
> intimating that we respect that also?

I'm following the argument presented to Judith that we should not be so
arrogant as to force our cultural norms on others.  Do I accept honor
killings? no. Do I accept slavery, murder, pedophilia, forced conversion and
a host of other practices in the Islamic world? no. Do I think that the
Islamic world should join the 21st century and stop some of their more
destructive practices? Yes. But that's my arrogance that says that there are
practices in the Islamic world that are wrong. Arrogant me. Bad me.


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