more definitions of terrorism ( I am particularly looking for pre sept 11th definitions):
According to Bruce Hoffman's recently (1998) published "Inside Terrorism", terrorism is; "ineluctably political in aims and motives; violent-or, equally important, threatens violence; designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond the immediate victim of target; conducted by an organization with an identifiable chain of command or conspiratorial cell structure (whose members wear no uniform or identifying insignia); and perpetrated by a sub-national group or non-state entity." I think the key to the definition is this last point - "perpetrated by a sub-national group or non-state entity" Webster's New World Dictionary defines terrorism as an act of terrorizing; use of force or threats to demoralize, intimidate, and subjugate, esp. such use as a political weapon or policy; 2. The demoralization and intimidation produced in this way. I do think that we are talking about an absolutely central issue here. In order to fight against something, we must first identify and define what that thing is. will -----Original Message----- From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 17:42 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) Good point ... And I've never been comfortable with bombing cities, as was common on all sides during WWII, but often within those cities were legitimate military targets (such as factories), and it was much harder then to target just the factories. In the calculus of the times, dropping nukes on Japan was the only way to bring the war to an end. I think that's a debatable point. H. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Smyth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:25 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) what about hiroshima!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 17:23 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) Civilized nations and peoples do not target civilians. And as weapons become more advanced, civilian causalities decrease. Look at Afghanistan as an example. There are neighborhoods where all but one house remains untouched. That one house, all of the residents say, was occupied by a known Taliban or Al Quada member. It is utterly destroyed. The neighbors say no other homes were damaged and no other people hurt. Just that one house. That's what advanced weaponry will do for you. As I said, civilians will inevitably be hurt in killed in a war zone. I don't think there will ever be a time when that is 100 percent unavoidable, but the difference between a civilized nation (such as Israel) and an uncivilized one (such as Palestine) is who they choose as their targets. The civilized ones pick military and government targets. The uncivilized ones pick civilian targets. H. -----Original Message----- From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:10 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) Interesting point.... are you saying that a terrorist is someone who attacks civilians? generally in the past, civilians have not been targeted in time of conflict or war. For example, in WW1 about 5% of all causalities were civilian. Obviously this has changed during the 20th century, maybe partly due to the changing nature of weapons, and of conflict itself. will -----Original Message----- From: Howard Owens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 17:01 To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) Illogical and wrong. The colonists attacked military and government targets. H. -----Original Message----- From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 7:53 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) Agreed. I'm the colonists that rebelled against England were considered terrorists at the time. Probably still could be. Todd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Smyth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:42 AM Subject: RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0) > >They (the Palestinians) are the terrorists. > > Surely the issue of whether they are terrorists depends on your perspective > of the situation? I'm not condoning anything, its just an observation > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
