I think they should cast off their thongs.
;-)

-Ben


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:10 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> 
> 
> I think even people without sin shouldn't cast stongs.
> 
> As everyone knows, they are very delicate, and don't react 
> well to be handled, let alone thrown.
> 
> :)
> 
> Jerry Johnson
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/22/02 11:44AM >>>
> Judith:
> 
> There are a number of errors in the KJV (from what I 
> understand, mostly
> grammatical errors), but fundamentalist often argue that it 
> is the only
> "sanctified" version of the English Bible and that all other 
> translations
> are suspect if not sinful.
> 
> The KJV also remains very popular because it is considered 
> more poetic (this
> is the position my wife takes).
> 
> The New American Standard is also very popular.
> 
> I prefer the New International Version. It is the most recent complete
> translation. Some 100 scholars worked on it, checking and 
> rechecking against
> the best source documents available.  It's a very easy 
> translation to read.
> And I think the poetry comes through just fine. It also makes note of
> disputed passages (such as the one with Jesus and the 
> prostitute where Jesus
> says, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stong."  This 
> story isn't in
> the earliest complete versions of the that gospel (I think it 
> was Matthew,
> but I can't remember for sure).  So, for me, it strikes me as 
> a scholarly
> translation.
> 
> H.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 7:08 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> 
> 
> Well, it depends upon what translation you're using. For instance, I
> remember learning in school that there have been some serious
> mistranslations with the King James version, which is the one you hear
> about a lot. (Howard, how central is that translation considered?)
> 
> One major mistranslation which led to the myth that Jews have 
> horns: The
> translation of the word "Karnei Or," (which means beams of 
> light) as horns
> of light. (This in a description of how Moses looked as he 
> was receiving
> the Torah on Mount Sinai--there were beams of light shining 
> from his face.)
> I don't remember if that mistake was in King James or not.
> 
> Most Orthodox Jews use Jewish translations such as the 
> Artscroll or the
> Judaica Press, or we study it in the original Hebrew. Artscroll is a
> mainstay for most Ba'alei Teshuvah (returnees to Judaism, in 
> other words
> people who have become observant later in life).
> 
> Judith
> 
> >I would have replied last week, but I was ill and home with 
> the wife...
> >
> >I thought they were related, but originally believed there were
> >translational differences...
> >
> >All I need now is a little more time <g>
> >
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: 18 April 2002 04:31
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> > >
> > >
> > > >I am going to have to re-read the Old Testament, and 
> once I've done
> > > >this, I'll probably go through others like the Torah - I 
> intended on
> > > >doing this several years ago, but didn't get all of the
> > > books (and now
> > > >I'm not sure if I still have those I originally bought)
> > >
> > > Uh, Phillip -- What Christians call the Old Testament IS the
> > > Torah. They
> > > are one and the same.
> > >
> > > (Just to clarify ...)
> > >
> > > Judith
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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