For the Mormans, it's not a new translation, it's an entirely new testament that purports to tell the story of the native Americans who followed God and whom Jesus supposedly visited after his ressurection.
As I understand it, there are passages in the Morman book, which was supposedly dictated to Joe Smith by a salamander, or something like that, that are word for word the same as the KJV version of some passages -- including the grammatical errors in the KJV. I've never verified that, but heard it from a guy who researched this kind of stuff, Hank Hannagraf. H. -----Original Message----- From: Tim Painter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 9:40 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link) The New American Standard (NASB) is a more literal translations (word for word) whereas the NIV leans towards dyanmic equivalence (more of a "meaningful" translation than exactly word for word.) >From what I understand, the KJV translations was translated using some of the older texts available at that time. The NIV and NASB makes use of even earlier transcripts along with the older ones. All 3 have very minor differences that do not equate to any major doctrinal differences -- it amounts to maybe 2% of the entire text. I personally prefer the NIV as well. I have been reading a lot of the New Living Translation which is also an excellent translation. (That one leans even more heavily in the dynamic equivalent area of translation). The Mormon Church (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) and the Jehovah's Witnesses both have their own "translations" which are totally inaccurate and were not translated from the original texts. (Although both churches claim they were) They were plagiarized versions of the KJV. I can't recall the official name of the mormon translation ( the Joseph Smith translation) -- the JW version is called the New World Translation. Speaking of the NIV, an updated version of the NIV is coming out -- the New Testament is available at www.tniv.org Tim P. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link) > Judith: > > There are a number of errors in the KJV (from what I understand, mostly > grammatical errors), but fundamentalist often argue that it is the only > "sanctified" version of the English Bible and that all other translations > are suspect if not sinful. > > The KJV also remains very popular because it is considered more poetic (this > is the position my wife takes). > > The New American Standard is also very popular. > > I prefer the New International Version. It is the most recent complete > translation. Some 100 scholars worked on it, checking and rechecking against > the best source documents available. It's a very easy translation to read. > And I think the poetry comes through just fine. It also makes note of > disputed passages (such as the one with Jesus and the prostitute where Jesus > says, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stong." This story isn't in > the earliest complete versions of the that gospel (I think it was Matthew, > but I can't remember for sure). So, for me, it strikes me as a scholarly > translation. > > H. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 7:08 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link) > > > Well, it depends upon what translation you're using. For instance, I > remember learning in school that there have been some serious > mistranslations with the King James version, which is the one you hear > about a lot. (Howard, how central is that translation considered?) > > One major mistranslation which led to the myth that Jews have horns: The > translation of the word "Karnei Or," (which means beams of light) as horns > of light. (This in a description of how Moses looked as he was receiving > the Torah on Mount Sinai--there were beams of light shining from his face.) > I don't remember if that mistake was in King James or not. > > Most Orthodox Jews use Jewish translations such as the Artscroll or the > Judaica Press, or we study it in the original Hebrew. Artscroll is a > mainstay for most Ba'alei Teshuvah (returnees to Judaism, in other words > people who have become observant later in life). > > Judith > > >I would have replied last week, but I was ill and home with the wife... > > > >I thought they were related, but originally believed there were > >translational differences... > > > >All I need now is a little more time <g> > > > >Philip Arnold > >Technical Director > >Certified ColdFusion Developer > >ASP Multimedia Limited > >T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 > >F: +44 (0)20 8686 7911 > > > >An ISO9001 registered company. > > > >********************************************************************** > >This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and > >intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they > >are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify > >the system manager. > >********************************************************************** > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: 18 April 2002 04:31 > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link) > > > > > > > > > >I am going to have to re-read the Old Testament, and once I've done > > > >this, I'll probably go through others like the Torah - I intended on > > > >doing this several years ago, but didn't get all of the > > > books (and now > > > >I'm not sure if I still have those I originally bought) > > > > > > Uh, Phillip -- What Christians call the Old Testament IS the > > > Torah. They > > > are one and the same. > > > > > > (Just to clarify ...) > > > > > > Judith > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
