> Dana wrote: > well, Gruss wants facts so let's start here. Can you demonstrate to my > satisfaction that a majority of those using social programs are > "irresponsible teens"? >
But that's a path to nowhere. Define "irresponsible". Is it having kids when you don't have the ability to support them *at the time*? When you're on the edge and lose the ability? When you pick the wrong person? When it's an oops? And, bluntly, the burden of proof isn't on Cam because it's you that's advocating spending his money. That's like your financial adviser saying "convince me not to invest your money in Citibank". So if you favor the social safety net, then define what's "net" vs wasteful enabling of socially destructing behavior. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:290672 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
