And I am saying that if you focus too much on "Muslim" then

a) you harass a lot of innocents, possibly unconstitutionally
depending on how it is done
b) you miss the really dangerous and organized terrorists who are
smart enough not to wave red flags.



On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wow, you truly are that dense.
>
> Once again.....'Muslim' would be one piece in a much larger puzzle. One
> thing drunk drivers do is have difficulty in maintaining a constant speed,
> does this mean that everyone who has difficulty maintaining a constant speed
> is driving drunk? No.  Do I think a police officer should pull someone over
> SOLELY because they cannot maintain a constant speed? No. But if the driver
> cannot maintain a constant speed and is swerving a lot in their lane and
> exhibiting OTHER behaviors of a drunk driver, than I think they should pull
> the driver over and investigate.  Could be the driver is tired, or slightly
> distracted or drunk.
>
> Do I think a person should be investigated SOLELY for being a Muslim? I
> think I have answered that before, but I will answer again...NO. But, if the
> person is Muslim,and exhibits other behaviors similar to those of know
> terrorists do I think they should be looked at? Yes. Is that really so hard
> to understand?
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Michael Grant <mgr...@modus.bz> wrote:
>
>>
>> Just to be clear Scott. You are drawing a parallel between appearing to
>> drive drunk (a crime) and appearing Muslim (not a crime)?
>> Or is appearing Muslim the same as appearing to be a terrorist?
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Wire taps are a far stretch from a traffic stop.
>> >
>> > Yea, that makes sense, the police are the problem, not the criminals.
>>  The
>> > criminal has the right to not be bothered by the police, but the people
>> he
>> > could injure or kill..meh..their rights do not seem to matter as much.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 2:54 AM, denstar <valliants...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> >  > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > You still did not answer the question. I will ask again.
>> > > >
>> > > > If a police officer sees a driver exhibiting behavior consistent with
>> > > those
>> > > > who are driving drunk, even if this particular driver is not breaking
>> > any
>> > > > laws, should the police officer investigate further by pulling the
>> > driver
>> > > > over?
>> > > >
>> > > > Its a 'yes' or 'no' question.
>> > >
>> > > I'm sorry, I thought my comments made it obvious as to which way I
>> swing.
>> > >
>> > > The answer is an emphatic 'No'.
>> > >
>> > > This protects not only the citizen, but the officer as well.
>> > >
>> > > I'm pretty sure I recall you being upset at people getting off due to
>> > > technicalities, neh?
>> > >
>> > > It probably sounds as crazy as letting KKK people have parades, but
>> > > there you go-- one of the prices we pay for being such a bad-ass
>> > > country.
>> > >
>> > > I mean, think about your question:  Should you be stopped by an
>> > > officer of the law if you haven't broken any laws?
>> > >
>> > > "Show me your papers" used to be, well, associated with lameness.  I
>> > > know in this Brave New World, that so long as you're not doing
>> > > anything wrong, you have nothing to fear.  Right?  Who cares if The
>> > > Man taps your phone?  You have something to hide or something?
>> > >
>> > > I think a lot of people have lost sight of the big picture.  It's sad.
>> > >
>> > > As I've said before, I'd rather be "free" than "safe".
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > A mind at liberty to reflect on its own observations, if it produce
>> > > nothing useful to the world, seldom fails of entertainment to itself.
>> > > George Berkeley
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
> 

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