And to be clear, the paragraphs of analysis came from an article someone
else wrote, they are not mine.

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Jerry Johnson <jmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Cameron Childress <camer...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Jerry Johnson <jmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > There is a bill proposed in both the house and the senate that would
>> require
>> > ISPs (and anyone that runs a wifi node) to keep records of all ips and
>> who
>> > was using them for 6 months. But it is not law yet.
>>
>> Okay - so if I run a WiFi node and leave it open I have to log all the
>> used IPs assigned to users via DHCP?  What the hell good does that do?
>>
>> Yes officer!  The offender was at 192.168.1.35!  Traceroute that you
>> CSI b*tches!
>>
>
>
> log IPs and _who was using them_.
>
> From an old rant by me on the subject, the details of the bills:
>
> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:HR01076:
>
> ...
> Data retention bills - requires ISP and WiFis to retain user data for 2 yrs
>
>
> Two bills have been introduced so far--S.436 in the Senate and H.R.1076 in
> the House. Each of the companion bills is titled "Internet Stopping Adults
> Facilitating the Exploitation of Today's Youth Act," or Internet Safety Act.
>
> Each contains the same language: "A provider of an electronic communication
> service or remote computing service shall retain for a period of at least
> two years all records or other information pertaining to the identity of a
> user of a temporarily assigned network address the service assigns to that
> user."
>
> Translated, the Internet Safety Act applies not just to AT&T, Comcast,
> Verizon, and so on--*but also to the tens of millions of homes with Wi-Fi
> access points or wired routers that use the standard method of dynamically
> assigning temporary addresses.* (That method is called Dynamic Host
> Configuration Protocol, or DHCP.)
>
> "Everyone has to keep such information," says Albert Gidari, a partner at
> the Perkins Coie law firm in Seattle who specializes in this area of
> electronic privacy law.
>
> The legal definition of electronic communication service is "any service
> which provides to users thereof the ability to send or receive wire or
> electronic communications." The U.S. Justice Department's position is that
> any service "that provides others with means of communicating
> electronically" qualifies.
>
> *That sweeps in not just public Wi-Fi access points, but
> password-protected ones too, and applies to individuals, small businesses,
> large corporations, libraries, schools, universities, and even government
> agencies. Voice over IP services may be covered too.*
>
> Under the Internet Safety Act, all of those would have to keep logs for at
> least two years. It "covers every employer that uses DHCP for its network,"
> Gidari said. "It covers Aircell on airplanes-- those little pico cells will
> have to store a lot of data for those in-the-air Internet users."
>
>
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