but you're not and you yourself would say no, correct? So...all I am saying is that there is plenty of blame to go around, and this article presents a side that it says is true and being overlooked. The "piracy is bad" angle is not news.
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Michael Dinowitz <[email protected]> wrote: > > Maybe I'm just reacting to the simplistic way he's going about this and the > rather one sided approach he's taking. Piracy is wrong but... is what he's > saying. He's all but excusing it because of the big bad west. > > Would I take money to allow my neighbor's kid to be poisoned? If I was a > Somali warlord then the answer is "Hell yes". It has been for a lot longer > than this story's been around. > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I think you are reading more into it than is there. The article says, >> we are only hearing one side. Here is another. It actually goes to >> some lengths to say of course piracy is wrong, even. >> But if in fact people become pirates because they see no choice, it >> doesn't matter if somebody got money for allowing conditions that >> contribute to their plight. Not from their point of view. I am not >> sure that it makes a lot of difference ethically either -- how cynical >> was that payment? >> Would you take money to allow your neighbor's child to be poisoned? >> >> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Michael Dinowitz >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > It is a tiny amount and probably didn't get to anyone other than the >> > warlords, but it was still a financial transaction between a party in >> > (partial) rule of the area and a party wishing to dump waste. This fact >> is >> > not mentioned in the article and should be. It is not a cut and dry "the >> > west is the only ones at fault" thing. >> > >> > On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> 80 million is nothing when it comes to environmental cleanup. Did that >> >> money get to the people affected, ev >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Michael Dinowitz >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > I notice that the payment to Somali warlords of $80 million in return >> for >> >> > the 'rights' to dump the waste was not mentioned. As much as the >> article >> >> > makes it out to be the evil west vs. the noble suffering Somalis, the >> >> truth >> >> > of the situation if far from that simple. >> >> > On the other hand, it is not a repeat of the Muslim piracy of the >> Barbary >> >> > coast, no matter how some sites want to make it. >> >> > >> >> > Oh, and "everybody agrees" is not true either, as everyone can tell >> you. >> >> :) >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:294821 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
