Death panel: Group of assholes the determine if you illness passes the
Cost-benefit analysis.

Medicaid is for poor people, medicare is for the over 65.
Doesn't really matter because neither is sustainable.

On the other hand, private insurance is what makes keeping people
alive profitable.


On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote:
>
> I thought we were talking about Death Panels. My point, however, is
> that government programs are routinely more generous in what they pay
> for the physician to do. In some cases that's good (covering important
> tests to determine what is wrong) and in some cases it is bad (more
> fraud and gaming of the Medicare/Medicaid system than I'd like). Since
> these "death panels" and the whole notion of a public option is a
> under the umbrella of government-run health insurance, I'm not seeing
> where your fear is being based. Private insurance is more likely to
> deny coverage for a procedure than public-run insurance. I personally
> think that is a double-edged sword. I want appropriate procedures to
> be easily green-lighted and reduce the red tape around insurance
> approval/payments. At the same time, I want fiscal accountability and
> to have a tight ship.
>
> Judah
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Sam <sammyc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> We're talking Medicaid not Medicare. Medicare isn't available to women under 
>> 40.
>> Five times the number of doctors will refuse new Medicaid patients
>> than they will private insurance patients.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> But why would it be any different than it is now? Private insurers
>>> give a lot more grief to physicians than Medicare does. Which is a
>>> problem, really, there is a fair bit of billing fraud in the Medicare
>>> system that they are working to bring down. Many physicians may not
>>> like the reimbursement rates provided by Medicare but if anything
>>> Medicare should be faulted for being too liberal with the claims it
>>> accepts, not the other way around. Private insurance companies are the
>>> ones requiring pre-approval for everything under the sun and making
>>> doctors jump through hoops to show medical necessity before approving
>>> things.  All available evidence points to it becoming easier to get
>>> treated under new regulations, not harder
>

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