You will be told to buy as many CALS as the lousy salesman can con you into...
sign up for MSDN.. that covers your development and testing.. everything you do up til the point where it constitutes conducting commerce or effecting interstate commerce... The CAL liscensing is simply VOODOO... MS got pissed because people started writing more and more apps that were on the web layer... so essentially the CALS on any of this sweatshop WARE (include ORACLE here)... is to be by CPU typically and for each application that touches their big old cool app... ideally if you have something like a SQL server running and resell to clients that would be out of scope of regular liscensing... you thereby are required to cover the clients with their own seats... Think of this CAL bullshit as anywhere you expect to make money by multipling the usability of your license, well they expect to be making money too... its that simple.. We dealt with it on Microsoft... thus we went with SUN... and we got slammed with Oracle mystery pricing... You will not get slammed for software piracy... people get smacked because they run businesses and piss employees off who make calls... These same companies also tend not to pay at all or grossly abuse the privilege of using others software without relational compensation... -paris -----Original Message----- From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 6:25 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Stupid Stupid SQL server question Yep! I hate the CAL idea. With Exchange its a real pain, each mailbox is a separate CAL. SQL I believe ships with 5 CALs per Server (1 Processor). I recently found out you need CAL's for Windows 2000 Server also. So if you have a Domain controller with Exchange and SQL on it serving 40 domain users some with multiple mailbox's and 2 CF servers plus 2 DBA's and and and..... Twice at Sprint I called Microsoft about Licensing and got 2 different answers. I was told that I did not need a license for development servers by one, and told I did by another. So they don't even know. Then later told by an "MCSE" that I don't need a license for development as long as it was from the TechNet Library sent out to MCSE's. I just wish they would cut out all the legal garbage and tell us exactly point blank what it is. But until then I am going with this Development Servers No Licensing. SQL Server License for processors SQL Cal 1 for each CF server, 1 for each DBA Win2K WEB server 1 for each processor, 1 CAL for IIS cover all users because they only connect through a web browser. 1 CALL for each Administrator, user or backup operator. Does CF require a CAL? I am probably wrong on this but that's what they said (one time or another) Rick -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:43 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Stupid Stupid SQL server question Yes. That would be the treatment that I was alluding to. Anyone else feel bent over and rode hard by Microsoft's new licensing policies? Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Braver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: Re: Stupid Stupid SQL server question Jeff- Have you seen the bank tv commercial with the customers' barcodes on their foreheads? -Ben At 12:16 PM 5/10/02 -0700, you wrote: >I was targeted for the staple on method for my barcode... <G> Was very >pleasant indeed. > >Jeff > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Eric Mathews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 11:58 AM >Subject: RE: Stupid Stupid SQL server question > > >And they brand you with a barcode as well? > >Make sense though, and I'm not the one paying the bill at the end of the >day. Better safe than sorry. > >Again, thanks for the info! > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 2:29 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Stupid Stupid SQL server question > > >Be Careful with this configuration. You really need a per processor license >for any sql box that will be hit by account concentrators (middleware >applications). Our licensing rep went through the roof when she found out >we were using per seat configurations for our web boxes... Yes it costs >more but it keeps the BSA/SPA off your butt. > >HTH, > >Jeff Garza > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Eric Mathews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 10:48 AM >Subject: RE: Stupid Stupid SQL server question > > >That's what I needed to know - thanks very much for the quick response! > >-----Original Message----- >From: cfhelp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 1:45 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: Stupid Stupid SQL server question > > >1 for each CF server and 1 for you to connect with Enterprise Manager. > >Rick Eidson > >-----Original Message----- >From: Eric Mathews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:43 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Stupid Stupid SQL server question > > >I'm setting up an account at RackSpace, and they need to know how many CALs >I'll need for our instance of SQL server. This SQL server box will be >responding to requests from two Cold Fusion 5.0 boxen which are running >around a dozen hosted sites each. > >Bottom line - does each instance of CF count as one CAL? Or is it each >domain, or each server? Need answer soon!!! > >Thanks, >Eric >(with a "c") > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-community@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
