Doesn't matter...it is a legal precedence, which makes it the law of the
land.  Their right to free speech ends where the family's right to privacy
begins.  When someone is shouting slurs and other obscenities while you are
trying to mourn the death of child...yes that does get in the way.  Freedom
is not without restrictions.  It has restrictions because people cannot be
trusted to use common sense and common courtesy...like these fucktards.  If
it wasn't for people like these, we wouldn't need laws that restrict our
freedoms and define where there are boundaries.  For most of us, those
boundaries are common sense boundaries.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:09 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere
d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc


You are a thought police advocate.

1.  There is no official right to privacy.  It is not contained in the
constitution.  Period.  It's made up.

2.  You are violating the Westboro's right to freedom of speech and
assembly.  I don't care about their religion; provided they stay off of
private property they aren't breaking the law.  I will defend to the death
their right to do so, and will be there to counter protest them at every
opportunity.

3.  No one is stopping the family of the fallen marine from mourning in
their own personal way, religious or otherwise.

That’s the way shit works in a FREE country.

I will admit, I have seen it come very close to violence.  I won't admit
some other stuff. Haha.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 6:14 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere
d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc


As much as I despise Reagan and the Bush family, I would also say that
people shouldn't be allowed to protest their funerals either.  The family's
right to privacy and their freedom of (and from) the religious beliefs of
others trumps all of that.  I think it does amount to yelling fire in a
crowded people.  One of these days they are going to mess with the wrong
people and a bunch of folks are going to get killed...probably including
innocent bystanders.

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:10 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere
d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc


mmm responsibility.

But they have the right to be irresponsible and even despicable. It
would be responsible to refrain, but... if the Nazi party can march
through a Jewish neighborhood, if Christians can harrass distraught
young women seeking abortions, then these wackos have a right to do
this. It does not amount to yelling fire in a crowded theatre. Quite.

The best solution I have heard so far involves a motorcycle group that
surrounds the family with its engines gunned. And presumably
collectively look too big and mean to rush.

The thing is, when does speech become *too* out there? I can't tell
you how many people told me I was despicable for calling George W. the
antichrist and a tool. And yet, I submit, events have largely proved
me right, so even speech that upsets people has value, yanno?

By the way, Ronal Reagan was also a tool. But I refrained from saying
so during his interminable funeral.

On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Eric Roberts
<ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> It's not the right decision.  What the court is saying the Westboro
Baptist
> Church's right's are more important that the right of a family to mourn in
> peace.  An individual's right is more important that the right of a
church.
> This is bullshit it is what it is.  While they do have a right to be
heard,
> they also have the responsibility to do so when it is appropriate.  A
> funeral is not the appropriate place to protest with signs that have
nothing
> to do with this individual who served honorably in our armed forces.  If
> they ant to protest outside the pentagon, or outside the Whitehouse, then
> that is their right.  Where this court has failed is one day they are
going
> to cross the wrong veteran's family and someone is going to come out guns
> blazing.  While I would call it karma, that would have been very
> preventable.
>
>
> Not only do we need to put up a collection, but we also need to call for
the
> impeachment of this judge.
>
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy Heald [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 4:43 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: RE:_Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere
> d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc
>
>
> Its unpopular but the right decision.
>
> Sent from my MOTOBLUR™ smartphone on AT&T
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Eric Roberts <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com>
> To: cf-community <cf-community@houseoffusion.com>
> Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 21:10:49 GMT+00:00
> Subject: RE:_Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere
> d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc
>
>
> WTF?  *shakes head in disgust*
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 3:48 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Speaking of the Supreme Court: Marine's_father ord ered to pay
> court costs to Westboro Baptist Churc
>
>
>
http://mddailyrecord.com/2010/03/29/marines-father-ordered-to-pay-court-cost
> s-to-westboro-baptist-church/
>
> Lawyers for the father of a Marine who died in Iraq and whose funeral was
> picketed by anti-gay protesters say a court has ordered him to pay the
> protesters' appeal costs.
>
> Lawyers for Albert Snyder of York, Pa., also say he is struggling to come
up
> with fees associated with filing a brief with the U.S. Supreme Court.
> ...
>
>
> Phelps is a tool.
> (full disclosure - it's one of my company's papers)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 







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