Even better whn you don't get fined.

Trust!

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-----Original message-----
From: Jerry Johnson <jmi...@gmail.com>
To: cf-community <cf-community@houseoffusion.com>
Sent: Tue, Mar 30, 2010 15:13:36 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere 
d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc


I think you are completely right, that Phelps and his ilk are withing their
rights, and cannot and should not be prevented by the government from
exercising their free speech.

But, I still think a single bonk on the nose would be worth the fine.

At the same time, I feel for this father, and can hopefully help donate to
get him out of this financial hole (unless he goes the bankruptcy route, in
which case he won't need it)



On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:08 AM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> You are a thought police advocate.
>
> 1.  There is no official right to privacy.  It is not contained in the
> constitution.  Period.  It's made up.
>
> 2.  You are violating the Westboro's right to freedom of speech and
> assembly.  I don't care about their religion; provided they stay off of
> private property they aren't breaking the law.  I will defend to the death
> their right to do so, and will be there to counter protest them at every
> opportunity.
>
> 3.  No one is stopping the family of the fallen marine from mourning in
> their own personal way, religious or otherwise.
>
> That�s the way shit works in a FREE country.
>
> I will admit, I have seen it come very close to violence.  I won't admit
> some other stuff. Haha.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 6:14 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: RE: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere
> d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc
>
>
> As much as I despise Reagan and the Bush family, I would also say that
> people shouldn't be allowed to protest their funerals either.  The family's
> right to privacy and their freedom of (and from) the religious beliefs of
> others trumps all of that.  I think it does amount to yelling fire in a
> crowded people.  One of these days they are going to mess with the wrong
> people and a bunch of folks are going to get killed...probably including
> innocent bystanders.
>
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:10 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere
> d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc
>
>
> mmm responsibility.
>
> But they have the right to be irresponsible and even despicable. It
> would be responsible to refrain, but... if the Nazi party can march
> through a Jewish neighborhood, if Christians can harrass distraught
> young women seeking abortions, then these wackos have a right to do
> this. It does not amount to yelling fire in a crowded theatre. Quite.
>
> The best solution I have heard so far involves a motorcycle group that
> surrounds the family with its engines gunned. And presumably
> collectively look too big and mean to rush.
>
> The thing is, when does speech become *too* out there? I can't tell
> you how many people told me I was despicable for calling George W. the
> antichrist and a tool. And yet, I submit, events have largely proved
> me right, so even speech that upsets people has value, yanno?
>
> By the way, Ronal Reagan was also a tool. But I refrained from saying
> so during his interminable funeral.
>
> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Eric Roberts
> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
> >
> > It's not the right decision.  What the court is saying the Westboro
> Baptist
> > Church's right's are more important that the right of a family to mourn
> in
> > peace.  An individual's right is more important that the right of a
> church.
> > This is bullshit it is what it is.  While they do have a right to be
> heard,
> > they also have the responsibility to do so when it is appropriate.  A
> > funeral is not the appropriate place to protest with signs that have
> nothing
> > to do with this individual who served honorably in our armed forces.  If
> > they ant to protest outside the pentagon, or outside the Whitehouse, then
> > that is their right.  Where this court has failed is one day they are
> going
> > to cross the wrong veteran's family and someone is going to come out guns
> > blazing.  While I would call it karma, that would have been very
> > preventable.
> >
> >
> > Not only do we need to put up a collection, but we also need to call for
> the
> > impeachment of this judge.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 4:43 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: RE:_Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere
> > d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc
> >
> >
> > Its unpopular but the right decision.
> >
> > Sent from my MOTOBLUR� smartphone on AT&T
> >
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Eric Roberts <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com>
> > To: cf-community <cf-community@houseoffusion.com>
> > Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 21:10:49 GMT+00:00
> > Subject: RE:_Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere
> > d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc
> >
> >
> > WTF?  *shakes head in disgust*
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 3:48 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Speaking of the Supreme Court: Marine's_father ord ered to pay
> > court costs to Westboro Baptist Churc
> >
> >
> >
>
> http://mddailyrecord.com/2010/03/29/marines-father-ordered-to-pay-court-cost
> > s-to-westboro-baptist-church/
> >
> > Lawyers for the father of a Marine who died in Iraq and whose funeral was
> > picketed by anti-gay protesters say a court has ordered him to pay the
> > protesters' appeal costs.
> >
> > Lawyers for Albert Snyder of York, Pa., also say he is struggling to come
> up
> > with fees associated with filing a brief with the U.S. Supreme Court.
> > ...
> >
> >
> > Phelps is a tool.
> > (full disclosure - it's one of my company's papers)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> 



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