There isn't anything inherently "unnatural" about genetic modification
of plants. There is evidence of transspecies genetic mixing out in the
wild and viruses seem to be one of the main candidates for moving
chunks of genome #1 into genome #2. Combine that with the natural
variation that occurs through breeding and genetic drift and there is
the potential for a lot of relatively substantial change in an species
genome. The big difference is that we are discussing doing it on
purpose, not randomly, and at a much faster rate than would likely
occur naturally. In theory, the fact that we are doing these things on
purpose would make for a greater likelihood of beneficial outcomes as
most mutations are deleterious. The reality, of course, is that humans
usually have fairly short term thinking and we aren't very good at
thinking 100 generations (plant generations or human generations) down
the line. We also have a tendency to do short sighted things like
substantially reduce the amount of genetic variety in a crop species
by trying to maximize the *here and now* without thinking about the
fact that conditions won't be the same in 50 years. Found a variety of
that plant that is especially productive when pollinated by bees?
Awesome! Lets plant it everywhere! Oh shit, a parasite has hit bee
colonies and they've collapsed and now your monoculture is fucked.
Good thing we still have flies and beetles to pollinate. What, the
variety of that plant that is pollinated by flies isn't grown anywhere
anymore? Well shit.

Bt corn crops are pest resistant. In an attempt to not disturb the
natural balance too much, farmers planting Bt corn are required to
also plant buffer crops of non-Bt corn to give the pests something to
eat. Which is at least a reasonably sensible idea. Except that fully
25% of the Bt corn crops out there don't actually follow through and
plant the buffer crops, rendering the whole "environmental balance"
bit moot.

I'm cautiously in favor of genetically modified crops. But I think
that in order to have them really work out for us, we are going to
have to display more caution, foresight, planning and self restraint
than we are generally wont to do. Until then, yeah, I support local
agriculture using non-invasive farming methods that discourage
mono-cultures, encourage free pollinating seeds (not hybrids that
can't reproduce), and utilize good crop rotation practices. I'm also
steadfastly against the ability to patent a gene line.

Cheers,
Judah

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Medic <hofme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I feel that we could go far enough with just cross breeding. I don't see why
> we need to modify our food on a genetic level. I understand that farming is
> a for profit endeavour and it's getting harder and harder for farmers to
> compete, but there's got to be a way to make natural farming profitable.

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