As a child in public schools, I knew people that thought heroin was cool, but I never did heroin because I had the sense to realize that it is a dangerous drug that I shouldn't get involved with. I really don't remember if my mother (I was even raised in a single parent home until I was 10 when my mother remarried...my father abandoned us when I was 5) even had the drug talk with me or not...but I don't think that was my influencing factor. Even later in life when I did get into some drugs, I never had the desire to do coke or heroin or crack or anything like that. We didn't have any gangs in my school, so I can't say that I knew anyone that thought tagging was cool in my school...but I could say that I thought it was pretty stupid. I did know some people though other venues (Boy Scouts actually) that did...and I thought that they were pretty stupid. What public schools taught me is people do stupid shit but I also saw people who got involved in things like that and then got away from it and excelled, which taught me that people can rise above their circumstances and excel despite them. Many people believe that being smart or technical, or a history freak, or whatever is weird or is acting too white. You are always going to have people like that...but it is up to the child (and the parents enforcing good learning attitudes) to rise above that...just like in real life where it's a dog eat dog world and the only person that is responsible for you is you.
I always loved history, I was in Spanish club (and took 3 years of Spanish in HS), and was in soccer, wrestling, and track throughout HS. I stood up for people and was not punished for it. Maybe the problem is with your school and you do have the power to change that...the school board is elected. Vote someone else in if you find there is a problem. Plus you can go to your state board if your complaints fall on deaf ears. Dropping out of the system is just that...dropping out. And before it is asked...yes I have children. A 15 year old (who lives with her mother and is attending public HS) and soon to be 5 year old. One of the reasons I just moved is because I didn't want my 5 year old to go to the school system where we used to live, so we planned on moving to a better area when out lease expired anyway. I just don't think that homeschooling is the answer. You can't shelter your children their whole life from negative influences. They do have to learn to make their own mistakes and learn that there are consequences to their actions. Sounds like your daughter made some bad choices and hung out with the wrong people. I hope she learned from those mistakes. I would also look at where, as a parent, I failed to get her the information she needed to make better choices so that she didn't get into that situation to begin with. -----Original Message----- From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 5:13 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling..... ok well... if you think all that is just fine, no wonder you are in favor of public education. I can assure you that nobody she associates with now thinks heroin is cool, or that there is no point in learning stuff, but it took her almost two years of de-schooling and the right boyfriend and one HELL of a lot of grey hair to get her there. I am just glad she had the sense to come out ok. By the way, that was one of the "best" schools in town. I think it is normally ranked #2 out of about a dozen high schools. Also, nobody she talked to *before* she went back to high school thought that tagging was a good idea or that it was ridiculous to know the details on elizabethan intrigues. ::shrug:: Also by the way, she starts college in the fall. On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Eric Roberts <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Sounds like real life...though some of those things sounds like common > things to kids...like thinking certain things are weird. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:37 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: The hardest thing about homeschooling..... > > > Ha, public school does not, in my experience, bring much to the table. > I'm sure I'll be flamed for that, but here is what my daughter learned > at a public school: > > yes you can be suspended for defending the developmentally disabled > student in your art class > > smoking is cool > > adults are allowed to take things from you and not give them back > > tagging is a good way to express yourself > > It doesn't matter how well you read, because the class will be taught > at a 6th grade level anyway > > parents are clueless > > so-and-so knows the number to get heroin delivered > > Knowing anything about history is wierd > > If you have ever been a champion at something, you do not want to admit it > > Don't get me started. > > Dana > - > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Jerry Johnson <jmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Quick survey here. >> >> How many people had parents that ADDED homework to your list? >> Who taught them subjects at the kitchen table, usually years before the >> schools did? >> Who took them to the library a couple of times a week, and provided a full >> set of encyclopedias at home (pre cdrom and internet)? >> >> When I hear about ONLY homeschooling, I usually feel bad for the kids, who >> miss out on all the things that public school DOES bring to the table. And > I >> cannot imagine not getting part-time home schooling to fill in the > corners, >> and test to make sure it is all sticking. >> >> Just wondering if my experience was normal (as I always assumed), or not > the >> norm. >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Matt Williams <mgw...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >I don't think that homeschooling should be legal, unless you are a >>> teacher. >>> > >>> >Eric >>> >>> >>> Right, because you can't teach anything unless you've been taught how to >>> teach it. It's a wonder that homeschoolers can even read. >>> /end sarcasm >>> >>> You know nothing of homeschool teachers (moms and dads) until you've seen >>> it in action. Schools and universities advertise low student to teacher >>> ratios as a plus. It's pretty hard to beat one on one. Some higher > education >>> may be helpful if you are teaching Calculus, but a MAEd is not necessary > for >>> teaching K-12 curriculum to your own children. >>> >>> -Matt W >>> >>> >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:316027 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
