Somehow, I do not think this is the 'change' everyone signed on for.

Its bullshit, plain and simple. I only hope the Obama-ites can see the
truth through their kool-aid induced euphoria.

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> All the uproar about reading alleged terrorists their Miranda rights
> predictably rebounds to allow us all a few less rights. See the last
> paragraph (of couse) for a sensible take.
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/09/AR2010050902062.html
>
> Miranda rights may be changed to fight terrorism, Holder says
>
> By Anne E. Kornblut
> Washington Post Staff Writer
> Sunday, May 9, 2010; 2:31 PM
>
> The Obama administration is considering changes to the laws requiring
> police to inform suspects of their rights, potentially pursuing an
> expansion of the "public safety exception" that allows officers to
> delay issuing Miranda warnings, officials said Sunday.
>
> Attorney General Eric Holder, in his first appearances on Sunday
> morning news shows, said the Justice Department is examining "whether
> or not we have the necessary flexibility" to deal with terrorist
> suspects such as the Pakistani-born U.S. citizen who tried to detonate
> a car bomb in Times Square last weekend.
>
> "We're now dealing with international terrorism," Holder said on ABC's
> "This Week." "And if we are going to have a system that is capable of
> dealing in a public safety context with this new threat, I think we
> have to give serious consideration to at least modifying that public
> safety exception."
>
> The announcement marked a potentially significant change by the
> administration as it tries to manage the politics of national security
> after repeatedly coming under fire, mainly from conservatives, for
> being too willing to read Miranda rights to terrorism suspects. The
> administration is trying to thread a difficult needle: of taking a
> harder line on terrorism while also doing so within the confines of
> the criminal justice system.
>
> Holder and other administration officials said they would be engaging
> Congress on putting together a proposal for the changes to the law,
> which requires suspects to be told that they have the right to remain
> silent and that their statements may be used against them in court.
> They did not provide specifics of possible changes.
>
> Under the public safety exception, statements obtained pre-Miranda may
> be used in court -- including to charge suspects -- if it is
> determined that police needed to obtain information quickly to prevent
> further crimes. Once an immediate threat is ruled out, the Miranda
> warning must be read, under current law.
>
> The public safety exception dates back to 1984, when the New York
> Police Department caught a man they believed was an armed rape
> suspect, only to discover that his loaded gun was missing from his
> holster. The Supreme Court ruled that it was legal for the police to
> question the suspect before reading him his rights because the loaded
> gun -- which he had tossed in a grocery store as he fled -- was a
> threat to public safety and it was imperative that it be found
> immediately.
>
> Holder referred to the case, New York v. Quarles, in his remarks
> Sunday, saying it was time for the law to be updated.
>
> "That's one of the things that I think we're going to be reaching out
> to Congress to do, to come up with a proposal that is both
> constitutional, but that is also relevant to our time and the threat
> that we now face," Holder said.
>
>
> Yet the changes Holder would seek are not simply about the
> admissibility of pre-Miranda statements in court, officials said. The
> goal would be to give law enforcement officials greater latitude to
> hold suspects within the criminal justice system and interrogate them
> for long periods of time -- without having to transfer them to a
> military system or designate them as enemy combatants, they said.
>
> That could mean seeking a change not to the public safety exception
> but to a separate statute that governs how long a suspect may be
> interrogated before being brought before a judge. Currently, there are
> limitations on how long that period of time may last.
>
> Orin Kerr, a professor at the George Washington University Law School
> and expert in criminal justice, said it is unlikely the Supreme Court
> would defer to Congress if it sought changes to the scope of Miranda.
> But there would be more flexibility on the detention statute, he said.
> Changes, Kerr said, "make sense if you can define what a terrorism
> case is." "The devil is in the details in these sorts of things," he
> said.
>
> 

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