Extra national groups and organizations are counted.

Also the Taliban could be looked at as the deposed government of
Afghanistan.

Beyond that one of the first declared wars the US ever fought was against
the Barbary Pirates and they weren't a nation state.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:49 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category


Those saboteurs and spies are still part of a country (or alliance with a
country) or a military.

What country is Al Queda from?

-----Original Message-----
From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:59 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category


Wrong.

Look into saboteurs and spies in the rules of land warfare.  However I still
wouldn't like to see these rules applied to American citizens.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:46 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: RE: in the oh hell no category


What army do they belong to?  What country do we go to war with?  Being able
to define them is a requirement of it being an act of war vs a criminal
action.  

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:33 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: in the oh hell no category


Unless they perform an act of war against our country representing an
enemy. Then they can be declared an enemy combatant and given a
military tribunal.


On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Eric Roberts
<ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> If you were even remotely familiar with the constitution, you would
realize
> that all people under the jurisdiction of the US are subject to the rights
> guaranteed by the constitution as well as the laws that govern the land.
>









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