No its simply a fact, not an excuse. For instance take the NORC dataset (see http://www.norc.org/homepage.htm) - this data is the result of a 20 year longitudinal study of all the children in the Chicago region school systems, including urban, suburban and rural systems. The children were followed throughout their school career. In the end over 50,000 children were followed for about 1 to 14 years. Not only was school achievement assess, but socioeconomic status, parental involvement, etc.
The shared variance (or r squared value) between race and economic status was over 40%, meaning that the two factors (race and SES) were strongly related. To such an extent that you cannot statistically remove the effect of poverty from ethnicity effects nor can you eliminate the effects of race on effects due to socio-economic status. Similar results are found in the census data and in other very large datasets. Its not saying that one group is better than the other, its saying that this strong relationship exists and has to be taken into account in any statistical model you create. On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com> wrote: > > "Race and poverty are real close. Real close. Really really close. So close > together that its really really really difficult to remove the effects of > one from the other." > > > One of the most racist ideas I have heard or read. It's that sentiment that > gives people an excuse for failure. I can't succeed because my skin color > is [fill in the blank]. > > > > J > > - > > No greater injury can be done to any youth than to let him feel that because > he belongs to this or that race he will be advanced in life regardless of > his own merits or efforts. - Booker T. Washington > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:323266 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm