How would that be changing anything on the church side other than allowing
churches to marry same sex marriages if they are ok with that.  None of this
would force anyone to marry same sex couples.  All a marriage license does
is say that the legal requirements (like age and verification that they are
not already married to someone else, etc...) are met and that it is then ok
for a religious official...or a civil official...to officiate the marriage
and declare it to be legal, thus imparting all of the rights and privileges
granted by law to each party.

The license does nothing in itself to affect the marriage other than to
sanction the civil aspects of it.  Why should that be changed?  The only
problem left is that the law discriminates against homosexuals and against
religions/religious institutions that have no issues with same sex marriage.

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 5:23 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: interesting opinion piece on Beck and the teabagging party


On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Sam - they do not have the same rights. They cannot get 'married' in
>> the 'civil contract' sense. yes, some places offer 'civil unions' for
>> gay couples but it is not the same as what is available for
>> heterosexual couples.
>
> Many states are making them equal. It's a much easier task to get
> civil unions to equal marriage than to change marriage. But they don't
> want to go that route.

Who are 'they'?

I am saying that there should be no such thing as a 'marriage
license'..at all. Everyone who decides they want to spend the rest of
their life with someone should get a 'civil union'. If you want to get
'married' go to a church, synagogue, etc....


>
>
>> I think its been proven, more than once, that separate but equal just
>> does not cut it.
>
> So we should force the church to recognize it?

You really do have a reading comprehension problem, don't you? I have
stated, quite clearly, marriage should be the concern of religious
institutions, civil unions should be the concern of the government.

I feel change needs to be made on the government side, not the church side.

>
>> A few weeks ago, a close friend told me the way he feels about it is
>> very simple. If you are against gay marriage, you are against love.
>
> Do gays even get married?
> 5% of population are gay and 1-5% of them get married.
> Let's fight about it.
>

Then why all the uproar from the Bible thumpers?

As far as I am concerned, if even one person is discriminated against,
that is one too many. If we lose that vision, America is dead.

-- 
Scott Stroz
---------------
You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can
wonder what the f*&k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris

http://xkcd.com/386/



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