Well, maybe insurance is part fo the problem, but not health insurance :D

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I disagree that insurance is the reason costs are so high.
>
> I have known and worked with many doctors in my previous career. The
> #1 expense for most, if not all, of their practices was mal-practice
> insurance.
>
> One friend who was an OB/GYN paid twice as much for malpractice
> insurance than the rent on the entire building the practice rented.
> Oh, yea, and he NEVER had a claim filed against him...ever.
>
> Why is malpractice so high? Well, partly because there are doctors out
> there who are not good at their jobs, but mostly because we live in a
> litigious society, and even the slightest negative side effect form a
> drug or procedure has us on the phone with a lawyer.
>
> In my opinion, we cannot get serious about 'healthcare reform' until
> we get serious about Tort reform.
>
> On a somewhat related note: my wife almost died form a ruptured
> ectopic pregnancy as she laid in a hospital room for 2 days while her
> dip shit doctors tried to figure out what was wrong (when they finally
> did, they discovered during surgery that she had over a liter of blood
> in her abdomen). While this seemed like a pretty obvious case of
> malpractice - we had no case because we could not prove any harm or
> injury had been done, other than the ruptured fallopian tube, which
> everyone is pretty sure ruptured before we even got to the hospital.
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Eric Roberts
> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>>
>> Pharma and insurance industry are the reason costs are so high.  They have
>> artificially inflated it so that you have to have insurance.  Why do you
>> think hospitals charge 30/pill for a .02 pill?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sisk, Kris [mailto:ks...@gckschools.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 12:26 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: RE: intersting opinion piece on Beck and the teabagging party
>>
>>
>> Meh, insurance has never been the problem with American health care.
>> It's cost. When you can go across the border (either of them) and get
>> the exact same medicine from the exact same manufacturing plant for a
>> quarter of the cost there's a problem. When it costs the patient 20
>> times the cost of a procedure because of malpractice insurance, there's
>> a problem. When it costs more to spend one night in a hospital than it
>> would cost to spend two weeks in a 5 star hotel, there's a problem.
>>
>> You fix those problems and maybe put some legislation in place forcing
>> medical insurance providers to be honest and we'd have no problems with
>> our health care system. As is though between the insane costs and the
>> dishonest medical insurance companies, we have a big problem.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 10:45 AM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: intersting opinion piece on Beck and the teabagging party
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Vivec <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What's also highly amusing is that according to these statistics over
>>> 54 million people in the United States are NOT covered by any sort of
>>> medical system.'
>>
>> It's more like 30 million without insurance.
>>
>> We have 10 million people are unemployed actually much more.
>> We have 30 million are illegal aliens so how many are in your count?
>> Half of the uninsured choose not to have insurance because they earn
>> enough money to cover all costs.
>>
>> I'm guessing there's only a few million that earn too much to qualify
>> for medicaid and too little to pay for insurance.
>>
>>> LOL!
>>>
>>> Sucks to be those people hahaha!
>>>
>>> They should have studied harder eh? :-)
>>
>>> The US healthcare system is in all ways superior to European.
>>
>> That's an odd claim.
>>
>>> The first and unassailable reason being that it is THE UNITED STATES'
>>> healthcare system.
>>> See those words in Capital Letters there? That's all you need to know
>>> that it is the best in the world.
>>
>> Where will you go when you need proper care? Cuba :P
>>
>>
>>
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