"At this point I have to question your intelligence Jerry." Judah, I get it. I'm stupid because I don't agree with you.
" I followed the bill progress very closely because 1) It is a long standing interest of mine. I was knocking on doors in 1994 for health care reform and 2) this is the industry I work in." Judah, that's great. "The bill, as passed, basically requires every citizen in country (under Medicare eligibility age) to buy private health insurance. Private health insurance, Jerry." Judah, it sure does. Just like Massachusetts. By the way, it's working out great there. "Your bullshit about 'socialist ideal' is a giant pile of crap. Judah, you got me. I should have said pathway. When the insurance companies go bankrupt, single payer will be implemented. I wasn't specific. This has been admitted to by Obama's cronies. Judah, tt's hard for us stupid people to remember everything. It would be nice if the smart people like you would help me piece these things together. "Obama and the Senate Dems explicitly took single payer off the table before negotiations even started. Which is a lousy way to negotiate if you ask me, but then again, the Obama administration doesn't really ask progressives what they think. " Judah, you're right. They took it off the table. Why bother when you can have down the road anyway? "Then came the so-called Public Option or"Medicare for all". In yet another nod to the Republicans and corporate-owned Dems (hi Blanche Lincoln!) that was taken off the table." Judah, if you bankrupt the insurance companies, it will come. "Not only did governmental control of health care not happen, governmental control of health insurance didn't happen and not even a government backed plan was allowed to compete with private insurance." Judah, it's not happened yet. There would have been violence in the street if it would have happened in one fell swoop. The takeover is in incremental steps. Things are phased in. "We instituted a Republican sponsored Individual Mandate and took every progressive backed plan to bring down costs (the Public Option reduced the deficit, remember?) off the table." Judah, I love the "We" there. It explains a lot for us stupid people. "Yeah, fucking socialism Jerry." Judah, if it walks like duck, quacks like a duck, and looks like a duck, stupid people are bound to think it's a duck. Judah, just as an aside, when health care deform gets rolling and everyone has insurance, what will happen? Specifically, there aren't enough doctors now when a lot of people don't even use the doctor because of a lack of insurance. When everyone has insurance, will usage go up? All those little sniffles and coughs that people used to ignore won't be ignored. When this happens, who's going to administer the extra health services. If there are enough doctors, and everyone gets care for anything they choose, how does one control the flow? Hmmm. So people, especially us stupid people, say that rationing would be implemented. Judah, maybe you can get together with your "We" group and find me some good answers on that. Maybe use Mass. to see how well it's working. J - No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and provisions should be made to prevent its ascendancy. - Thomas Jefferson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:326699 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm