On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "Ah, right. Please go check the earnings statements for health insurance
> companies and tell me which ones are going bankrupt."
>
> I'm no fan of insurance companies.  They seem to be the embodiment of
> greed.  This greed helped open the door for health care deform.
>
> That being said, you're right.  The insurance companies that can remain
> solvent will remain solvent.  They will stop covering health care
> altogether.  You know, like what's happening in Florida, Colorado, and
> Massachusetts.  It is about profit.

Just pick an argument and stick with it Jerry. Is it socialism? Is it
health insurance companies being driven bankrupt? Is it...well, what
the hell is this argument? Companies that can stay profitable will be
profitable? I guess I can't argue with that because it is a tautology.
When your argument changes with every email you might want to stop,
take a step back and think about where you're coming from.

> It's not like I'm the only one saying that private insurance is on the way
> out.  Look up Jacob Hacker, a liberal Yale professor who was instrumental in
> thinking up the public option.
>
> 鉄omeone once said to me, 糎ell, this is a Trojan horse for single payer.
> 糎ell, it痴 not a Trojan horse, right? It痴 just right there! I知 telling
> you!樗 Hacker said in the video at a July 2008 forum sponsored by the  Tides
> Foundation.

Psst...July 2008 was before the healthcare debate. There was no trojan
horse because...there was no horse at the time!

It was eventually brought into the debate and then rejected, like lots
of other ideas. I'd like to see it brought back because I think it
will increase competition and reduce the deficit (both of which I am
in favor of). I'm sure that if it comes back up there will be more
debate and hysteronics and death panel claims, but yeah, no trojan
horse.


> Yeah.  Great customers.  Those that can join when illness or tragedy happens
> and quit afterward leaving others with higher premiums.  Beautiful.  It
> certainly explains why some insurance companies in Mass, FL, and CO are no
> longer taking health care customers.

Uh, the logic behind the individual mandate (which was included in the
new law) was explicitly to prevent that. Insurance companies (you
know, the ones we are supposedly bankrupting) lobbied hard for it
because they said that the only way they could reduce costs is if
everyone was required to carry insurance. I'm not a fan of the
individual mandate but AHIP got its way.

> "Might want to adjust the tinfoil cap there Jerry, you're sounding like
> quite the conspiratorialist."
>
> Shit.  I need to buy stock in reynolds wrap.

That sounds like a really wise idea, though I'd suggest you also see
about a nice comfy chair, some jazz on the hi-fi and a relaxing
cocktail.

> "Stupid people will think it is whatever other people tell them to think it
> is apparently."
>
> Sure.  Hope and change.

Not to mention, "Freak the fuck out! The country is dooooooooommmmmmeeeedddddd!"

Judah

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