Is it any different from yours and many others attitudes here that government is bad? Is it still hypocritical when pointed out by someone being hypocritical in the process? When having officers abusing their power being more of the norm than the exception in my experience, it's not a prejudicial action. Plus, as I believe Kris pointed out, being a cop is a job...a choice...unlike being gay or being black...that does tend to attract a certain type of person. It has been my experience that it attracts the type of person that likes to use his badge as an ED treatment rather than going to the doctor and getting a prescription for Viagra. Unfortunately, the number of cops (to include several family members who are cops) that I have encountered, that are cops that respect the rights of others and don't do as above can be counted one 1...maybe 2 hands.
-----Original Message----- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:43 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he was right. To make it easier to understand my point, lets substitute the word 'cop' with Muslim or Jew or Democrat. Slice it any way you want it, you are still judging an entire group of people based on the words and actions of a few. Sorry, I find your attitude (and others, like Eric and Kirs) towards law enforcement to be hypocritical as you have all, at one time or another, pointed out that others on this list, myself included, have made disparaging remarks about an entire group of people based on the words and actions of a few members of that group, however, you have no issue doing that very same thing when it seems to fit your agenda. You seems to have issues with the way the system works, that does nto mean that all cops are 'bad'. So much for 'innocent until proven guilty'. With attitudes like this so prevalent, I would not want to be a law enforcement officer in this day and age On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote: > > Not the same thing at all. Being black or Hispanic is something you > don't have a choice about, being a cop is a job. There are processes > in place that are supposed to get rid of bad cops and they rarely do. > Give every black guy a badge, a gun, a union, a toothless internal > affairs department and a DA system that turns a blind eye and then you > can make that comparison. > > Judah > > On Saturday, September 18, 2010, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> So, if you get pulled over by a police officer for a traffic violation >> you will not answer any of his questions unless you have your lawyer >> with you? >> >> Either a) you are the world's best driver (and are not afraid of being >> pulled over) or b) you have more free time than this guy. >> >> 'Granted for every bad or corrupt cop we have there are probably 10 >> or 15 good ones, but you have no way of telling which you're dealing >> with till it's too late.' Imagine if, in the previous sentence, you >> substituted the word 'cop' with 'muslim', 'african-american', >> 'hispanic', 'italian' or any other word used to describe any other >> group of people. I guess 'innocent until proven guilty' only covers >> those who are suspected of having committed a crime but not those who >> would arrest those suspects? >> >> Funny how it seems OK to judge an entire group of people based on the >> words and actions of a few for some groups, like law enforcement and >> Tea Party members, but not for other groups, like those who want to >> build an Islam cultural center and mosque near Ground Zero. >> >> The hypocrisy of those on this list (including from myself at times) >> would be funny were it not so sad. >> >> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Kris Sisk <ks...@gckschools.com> wrote: >>> >>> Rule number one when dealing with any type of law enforcement in the Us: answer no questions under any circumstances without a lawyer present. This isn't to be a dick or to waste time. It's because A) we have the right to refuse to answer questions here and B) there are a lot of bad cops here (not necessarily corrupt, though we've got those to) who will take the slightest excuse to arrest you. Granted for every bad or corrupt cop we have there are probably 10 or 15 good ones, but you have no way of telling which you're dealing with till it's too late. Honestly I'd do the same as this guy did. >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:327426 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
