If he brought Chicago style politics to the Whitehouse, we would have single
payer healthcare and a booming green energy industry and every other thing
he promised on the campaign trail and Joe Lieberman would be on the bottom
of the Potomac with a pair of cement shoes.  Unless you have lived in
Chicago, the cry of Chicago style politics is pretty meaningless since you
don’t have a clue as to what that means.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:27 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: That was quick


On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 10:30 PM, denstar <valliants...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> I think that Obama is trying to do exactly what he said he wanted to do.
 Unfortunately it's not what people really want *or* even the reason he was
elected.
>>
>> He's doing what I said he was going to do, not what he said.
>
> Compared to what?  A "normal" politician?  I liked how Matt put it.
> You have to try to go all negative.
You like how Matt put it because he was king to Obama. Admit your bias.
He didn't say he was going to keep Bush policies in place and even
extend them.  OK I got that wrong.
He did say he was going to bankrupt the energy companies and the
southern states are feeling it. We just thought he was going after
coal. I did know he was going to bring Chicago style politics to the
Whitehouse while he said he was bringing openness.

> What is your baseline, a politician doing everything they said they'd
> do while campaigning?  Good luck with that!  (and I mean it).

Must be from a different thread.

> The Republicans were such graceful losers, too!  Freaking Democrats,
> single-handedly screwing us over.

I know right, they should give him hell, instead they let him pass
most everything.

>> They weren't his fault when he took the job, but now it's his. Bush
>> didn't need $5 trillion to fix the last one. All that money Obama
>> spend and jobs are still gone.
>
> Funny that you guys are both repeating one of the memes that
> politifact or whatever mentioned.

Polifact? Doesn't Sorros own that too :P

> There is no question that we're better than we would have been.  How
> much better is up for debate, but it isn't "none".

I'm thinking if the banks went bankrupt like all other business they
would have cleaned the houses out. Bush did apoligized for that
disastrous mistake. That's right, he manned up. When will our new
leader ever admit he erred?

> It really sounds like you're expecting a long-term problem to be
> solved in a short amount of time.  That's just not realistic.  He
> didn't start with a surplus.  =)

They economy of today is not related to the banking crisis of 2008. We
paid our way out of that 5 time over.

> It's like you put him on that cloud, and then give him shit for being on
it.

I didn't put him there. I'm trying to bring him down to reality. Not
really, we don't talk.

> You really wanted him to be the Messiah, neh?  More than Obama
> supporters did, but it seems like you did it just to try to knock him
> down.

I want him to be a regular guy that has a really difficult job. He's
thinks this job is cake for him. He's on vacation half the time. More
so than Bush. At least Bush worked during his vacations. Once he
realizes how difficult his job really is and accepts crit

> I like Obama.  Not perfect, there's X and Y I don't agree with, but
> still, he's had an uphill battle.  For sure he's not as terrible as
> you incessantly claim (in a sort of tit-for-tat kind of way).

I look at the big picture and it's a disaster. You look at the
disaster has he saved it from getting worse. If he changes a bit and
stops scaring corporations out and stops scaring us with unpayable
medical bills I will appreciate the little things he does. Right now I
can't f



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