I never said that I thought ID is a way to prevent voter fraud. For the last time.
I do not think it is unreasonable to ask a person to verify - reasonably - that they are who they claim to be. State issued ID, of any kind, would be the cheapest and most effective way to handle this. Asking for a name and address is NOT reasonable in my opinion. Can people get fake IDs? Absolutely. Would someone get a fake ID for the purposes of voting fraudulently? Probably not. I would hazard a guess that is someone was going to get a fake ID saying they are someone else - a real someone else, not a made up name, it would be for more nefarious reasons than trying to vote as that person. On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote: > > Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I will say this one more time. I think there is nothing wrong with >> reasonably asking someone to prove they are who they say they are when >> they go to vote - which i consider to be the most important thing we >> can do as citizens. Telling the volunteer sitting at the polls your >> name and giving your address is not what I would call 'reasonable'. >> > > Let's use case this: > > CASE #1: Eligible unregistered male arrives at poll without ID. > Description: Man's name is on state's birth record, therefore on list > of those eligible to register. Man has electric bill and/or other > proof (pay stub, neighbor, etc). Man is allowed to vote. > Risk: man is impersonating a resident or man is voting twice. > Analysis: even with ID same risk is tolerated; man could have fake ID > and/or already voted in another precinct. ID did not help. > > CASE #2: Ineligible fraudulent female arrives at poll without ID. > Description: Female is using name of voter either no longer in state, > dead, and/or impersonating eligible voter. Women has fake electric > bill and/or other falsified documents. Female is allowed to vote. > Risk: same as case #1 > Analysis: Female can fake documentation including IDs. ID did not help. > > > FACT #1: IDs do not prevent fraudulent voting. > > FACT #2: The only way to prevent voter fraud via false documentation > is real-time knowledge of who CAN vote (via birth/death, immigration, > and residency records) and who HAS voted. Neither of these are ID > solutions, ironically they're technology solutions. > > FACT #3: Single largest cause of vote inaccuracy is the collecting, > attributing, tabulating, and QAing of votes. > > CONCLUSION: IDs as a solution to preventing voter fraud is not "reasonable". > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:339471 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
