Driver's licenses, a very common document used for ID, are becoming more and more difficult to forge.
I remember going into a bar in DC and they actually had a scanner that scanned the back of my license to verify it was valid. Possible to forge? Yes. Easy? I don't think its as easy as you and Gruss are making it out to be. On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Eric Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > No...as he stated, the ID could be easily faked. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sam [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 08:40 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: How states are rigging the 2012 election > > > You do realize case 2 would be prevented with photo id? > > . > > > On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I will say this one more time. I think there is nothing wrong with >>> reasonably asking someone to prove they are who they say they are >>> when they go to vote - which i consider to be the most important >>> thing we can do as citizens. Telling the volunteer sitting at the >>> polls your name and giving your address is not what I would call > 'reasonable'. >>> >> >> Let's use case this: >> >> CASE #1: Eligible unregistered male arrives at poll without ID. >> Description: Man's name is on state's birth record, therefore on list >> of those eligible to register. Man has electric bill and/or other >> proof (pay stub, neighbor, etc). Man is allowed to vote. >> Risk: man is impersonating a resident or man is voting twice. >> Analysis: even with ID same risk is tolerated; man could have fake ID >> and/or already voted in another precinct. ID did not help. >> >> CASE #2: Ineligible fraudulent female arrives at poll without ID. >> Description: Female is using name of voter either no longer in state, >> dead, and/or impersonating eligible voter. Women has fake electric >> bill and/or other falsified documents. Female is allowed to vote. >> Risk: same as case #1 >> Analysis: Female can fake documentation including IDs. ID did not help. >> >> >> FACT #1: IDs do not prevent fraudulent voting. >> >> FACT #2: The only way to prevent voter fraud via false documentation >> is real-time knowledge of who CAN vote (via birth/death, immigration, >> and residency records) and who HAS voted. Neither of these are ID >> solutions, ironically they're technology solutions. >> >> FACT #3: Single largest cause of vote inaccuracy is the collecting, >> attributing, tabulating, and QAing of votes. >> >> CONCLUSION: IDs as a solution to preventing voter fraud is not >> "reasona > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:339478 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
