No...as he stated, the ID could be easily faked. -----Original Message----- From: Sam [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 08:40 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: How states are rigging the 2012 election
You do realize case 2 would be prevented with photo id? . On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote: > > Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I will say this one more time. I think there is nothing wrong with >> reasonably asking someone to prove they are who they say they are >> when they go to vote - which i consider to be the most important >> thing we can do as citizens. Telling the volunteer sitting at the >> polls your name and giving your address is not what I would call 'reasonable'. >> > > Let's use case this: > > CASE #1: Eligible unregistered male arrives at poll without ID. > Description: Man's name is on state's birth record, therefore on list > of those eligible to register. Man has electric bill and/or other > proof (pay stub, neighbor, etc). Man is allowed to vote. > Risk: man is impersonating a resident or man is voting twice. > Analysis: even with ID same risk is tolerated; man could have fake ID > and/or already voted in another precinct. ID did not help. > > CASE #2: Ineligible fraudulent female arrives at poll without ID. > Description: Female is using name of voter either no longer in state, > dead, and/or impersonating eligible voter. Women has fake electric > bill and/or other falsified documents. Female is allowed to vote. > Risk: same as case #1 > Analysis: Female can fake documentation including IDs. ID did not help. > > > FACT #1: IDs do not prevent fraudulent voting. > > FACT #2: The only way to prevent voter fraud via false documentation > is real-time knowledge of who CAN vote (via birth/death, immigration, > and residency records) and who HAS voted. Neither of these are ID > solutions, ironically they're technology solutions. > > FACT #3: Single largest cause of vote inaccuracy is the collecting, > attributing, tabulating, and QAing of votes. > > CONCLUSION: IDs as a solution to preventing voter fraud is not > "reasona ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:339473 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
