what about groups like the Amish or Mennonites? They have very specific exemptions regarding military service for instance. If the draft was suddenly reinstated should be through all eligible amish and mennonite people in jail for following their pacifist religion. Or another good example, what about the select exemptions for Sikhs (hair and the kirpan)? Are we to throw thousands of people in jail for simply following their religious beliefs?
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Eric Roberts <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > I don't think any religion should get an exemption for > anything...especially when it comes to matter that regard minors. If it > violates the law, it violates the law. Just because your stone age faith > says it is OK, doesn't mean that we should allow it. You have a choice to > be in that faith, they don't. You commit an honor killing...you go to jail > for murder. You kill a doctor that performs an abortion...you go to jail > for murder. You rape your wife...you go to jail for rape. If your faith > hasn't caught up with the 21st century...to bad. > > Eric > > On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 1:26 PM, PT <cft...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Someone needs to smack that judge individually and not make a blanket >> rule, especially not an amendment to a constitution. >> >> Sorry Muslim dudes, but your religious laws do not trump U.S. criminal >> law. I don't think I would get a pass for killing someone with the >> justification being that the Old Testament told me to (and in fact, >> people haven't). >> >> If one lives in the U.S. they need to fulfill their responsibilities as >> a citizen, which includes abiding by the law of the land. Rape should >> be no more tolerated than honor killings. >> >> This is one of the biggest problems with Islamic fundamentalism and >> western society. Islam and Islamic law are joined at the hip and >> Islamic law is incompatible with the laws of most modern societies. It >> is an outdated system that has outlived its purpose and needs to be >> revised, or abandoned. Preferably the latter. >> >> ----- >> "Because I can lie beautiful true things into existence ..." >> Neil Gaiman on Why I write. >> >> On 1/11/2012 11:05 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: >> > >> > If you had followed the passing of this law, the bill was drafted in >> > response to a judge's ruling in New Jersey, evoking Sharia law, finding a >> > husband not worthy of a restraining order based on spousal abuse >> (physical >> > and sexual) because "it was part of the husband's religion". >> > >> > Earlier this year an appeals court in New Jersey overturned a state court >> > judge's refusal to issue a restraining order against a Muslim man who >> > forced his wife to engage in sexual intercourse. The judge found that the >> > man did not intend to rape his wife because he believed his religion >> > permitted him to have sex with her whenever he desired. >> > >> > The case "presents a conflict between the criminal law and religious >> > precepts," the appeals court wrote. "In resolving this conflict, the >> judge >> > determined to except (the husband) from the operation of the State's >> > statutes as the result of his religious beliefs. In doing so, the judge >> was >> > mistaken." >> > >> > http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-12-09-shariaban09_ST_N.htm >> > >> > >> > As noted, the judge was overturned by an appeals court, and the OK bill >> was >> > a pretty egregious example of overreaction based on mindless fear. >> > >> > But I do understand the desire to keep religion out of our courts >> > (regardless of WHICH religion) >> > >> > And a judge DID use Sharia as the basis for his ruling (which is pretty >> > scary, overall, especially for his wife, I am sure) >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:345285 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
